(reply to nobody in particular)

This discussion is why open source wins over free software.

Free software is in reality too complicated.

The definition is simple-ish but not at all useful; because...

Even it's devotees can't agree on whether or not common "free" software is 
really free, and (from time to time) seem to suggest that they are each a bunch 
of unprincipled compromisers ruining the whole campaign.

If we can't tell (or agree) what free software means practically then we should 
not be surprised at the mix of software masquerading as "free" - whatever that 
means, and practically speaking this is /obviously/ not clear to ANYONE though 
we each might think it is clear to ourself.

Sam
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