Thanks for those comments Hugo - they help to explain what I mean.

Not only will the original author hav to install some other software to convert 
the mp3 to ogg, they will then have to tell many recipients to install vlc or 
firefox in order to hear it, and to pass on the same instructions to everyone 
they send it to.

Also additional software will need to be found and used if recipients want to 
listen to the audio on an mp3 player. (Users without admin access won't have 
the ability to do this even if they have the wit). Further as non-aware users 
can't often judge the charactr of remote individuals telling them to install 
strange new software they will either refuse (lets hope so) or otherwise we 
will be responsible for adapting their attitude to be willing to install 
whatever software some remote spammer tells them to. Corporate users may face 
discipline for installing, or telling customers or colleagues to install 
software.

If they had just sent mp3 they would have found no inconvenience except from a 
few political geeks who's comments (see above) are unhelpful and generally make 
things complicated anyway.

Whatever we feel here for strategic reasons, those who hear us on this will 
think we are liars because in the short term all they wil get (and most 
recipients) will be utter inconvenince that they don't have the background to 
cope with.

They will learn pavlov-style to never listen.

Hence my belief that the document discussed should be political/idealistic or a 
helpful guide to interoperability and document exchange, but it can't do both.

Sam

-----Original Message-----
From: Hugo Roy <[email protected]>
Sent: 04 April 2010 11:28
To: Sam Liddicott <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Explaining Open Standards email attachements


Hello Sam,

Allow me just to answer to this point,

Le mercredi 31 mars 2010 à 21:42 +0100, Sam Liddicott a écrit :
> For example: most users cannot handle ogg for flac files. Most users
> who can't accept mp3 but can accept ogg do so out of conscious
> rejection of mp3. And so the argument for ogg is political and not
> about interoperability and therfore will seem dishonest to
> non-technical readers who will then doubt the entire argument. Imagine
> when nearly everyone they send an ogg to (after the initial difficulty
> of producing the ogg - from an mp3) needs to ask what an ogg is and
> how to play it. It will soon be apparent that mp3 should have been
> used.

I have to say that it is not true, because a lot of very common and
famous software can handle those files.

Examples: VLC & Firefox 3.5.
The first one is easy to install and very popular.

Best,
-- 
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  French Coordinator            http://www.fsfe.org/about/roy 

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