On 31/01/14 14:58, Charlie Brady wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 31 Jan 2014, John Crisp wrote:
> 
>> Would it be appropriate to have links in the relevant manager sections
>> to documentation either locally or on the website ?
> 
> Mitel's server manager has a help link in the top corner of each 
> server-manager panel which links to local documentation.

Ah yes - easily missed :-) On mine it points to online documentation - I
don't believe we have a local copy installed ?

Perhaps we should look at the links being slightly more obvious, and
even 'context sensitive' i.e. say the Backup/Restore panel has a help
link to the relevant pages of the manual in the wiki ?

Perhaps contrib writers should be encouraged to add direct links from
their panels to their FAQ or contrib pages ?

Maybe we should have a 'Help' section at the top left of the panel above
everything else ???

> 
>> Some items I personally don't think are good ideas - e.g. turning on SSH
>> and Samba by default, but these are personally preferences.
> 
> Unless I missed something, samba is already on by default. SSH being 
> enabled with password access is incompatible with being secure by default.

Samba - yes I agree the comments were inaccurate as they did not really
understand, but I think the point they made was that there are no shares
set up by default (I think this is compared to the other distro which
apparently seems to do this). Yes, personally for security I think that
is good, but the point is that it isn't necessarily obvious to the
untrained eye.

"We" all know how it works. It is interesting to hear from someone who
doesn't....

SSH - again I agree, but again we have to explain that in a more obvious
way.

> 
>> Maybe we
>> need to look at a slightly enhanced install or post install system
>> whereby you ask if you want certain services on ?
> 
> Maybe. I think higher priority would be to enhace remote access panel to 
> allow upload of public key for ssh access. SSH enabled with weak passwords 
> allows remote compromise.
> 

Yes I can't disagree, but the point is we need to explain all this a
little more clearly. We might think it is, but they clearly didn't.

>> Anyway, some food for thought - gives us some things to think about for
>> the future.
> 
> Interesting to see how many of the 'bad' observations are just 
> misinformation.
> 

Yup. But it is up to us to make sure they DO understand. Hence I felt it
was good to have someone independent who knew nothing much about us and
was feeling their way around. It's the only way we can learn and improve.

If a user feels it is too difficult or awkward then they will go
elsewhere (note the final conclusion - I am sure if the reviewer
understood more the recommendation might have been different). That is
not good for us, and not good for the customer either if they end up
with a product that is inferior.....


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