On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 13:50:21 +0100, John Crisp wrote: > What we need is a system in place for who people WANT to contribute > financially because there is a benefit to them in doing so.
The "donate" buttons don't work then? > I do not believe that for many small users a direct compulsory charge > would work, though I am open to comments on this ! With a single server in a SOHO enviroment and 4 regular users that would depend on the charge. B-) I pay EUR10.00 (approx GBP7.00) per year for my usenet feed from news.individual.net. GBP10.00 a year for SME would not be a problem. GBP10.00 a month would make me think again... I do occasionally help with coding and the wiki though. > The people that we should be looking at working with are the > professional integrators who actually rely on us for their business. IMHO if they are not putting anything back into SME be that via bug fixes, development, NFRs or financially they are effectively stealing the code and efforts of others. Doesn't the licence have "non-commercial use only" clause(s)? > I believe that we have to be much more supportive of integrators. > > Again, forcing them to pay is still not the way to go. However.... Chicken and egg, which came first? Without suppport, financial or otherwise, from those *earning their living* on the back of SME the foundation is never going to be able to afford to do very much. > We need to have some pages on the wiki for 'official supporters' and/or > where integrators can advertise. I'm tempted to say why should the foundation promote the freeloaders? Is it a safe assumption that this advertising would be paid for and at sensble, as in commercialish, rates? > I have already been contacted by a number of companies who would like to > do this. The problem is that we do not have the manpower currently to be > able to give proper support. > > In English we say 'what came first, the chicken or the egg ?' > > Without money we cannot provide the system or actually pay for some > professional developers to assist us. "Great minds think alike" or is it "fools never differ". B-) Presumably the integrators have some programming skills and knowledge of SME so they could provide some of that "professional support" as "payment in kind". Not easy to administer and monitor though, did fixing Bug wxyz *really* take 12 hours of a developer/programmers time? Possibly what is needed is some easy/simple means of people being able to submit patches etc without haveing to scale the vertical learning curve of CVS/Git/whatever, getting to grips with Bugzilla is quite enough... -- Cheers Dave. _______________________________________________ Discussion about project organisation and overall direction To unsubscribe, e-mail [email protected] Searchable archive at http://lists.contribs.org/mailman/public/discussion/
