Thanks Joshua, this links will be very handy on reconversion :) 2011/3/28 Joshua Judson Rosen <[email protected]>: > David Reyes Samblas Martinez <[email protected]> writes: >> >> yuri was right, we can't include albums with the non-comercial clause, >> I's a pity due some ones are really cool , but I can't even use them >> on my videos :( > > I gather that a lot of people releasing things under CC licenses with > non-commercial clauses actually do so basically because they don't > understand all of the implications of what "non-commercial" means; > part of it is that they think "commercial" means something much more > specific than it does (e.g.: "charging fees for relicensing content" > or "charging fees for selling copies on CD", vs. "receiving money > for any activity that is in any way related to conveying the work"), > and the rest is that they think that "non-commercial" means that > people will come and talk to them if they need some other license-terms. > > As such, if you find something that's CC-*-NC that you want to > redistribute, it might be worthwhile to try to contact the > copyright-holder (presumably the artist, for most stuff on Jamendo), > explain the issues to them, and ask them if they'd be willing > to re-license without the NC clause. > > I thought that this was a pretty good, concise explanation of > why creators are actually better-off *not* applying the > `non-commercial use only' restriction: > > http://questioncopyright.org/cc-pro > > e.g.: > > ... more and more, we've seen professional artists choose > Creative Commons licenses that consign their works to a > non-professional ghetto. We're referring to the Creative Commons > "Non-Commercial" family of licenses: licenses that essentially say > "Do what you want with this, as long as you don't make money from it." > While that might at first seem like it simply reserves to the artist > the right to use the work professionally, it has the much larger > effect of removing the work from most professional contexts entirely. > > > Also, this `Power to the Pixel' talk that Nina Paley gave in 2009: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eazIth4orfM > > (or her very similar HOPE 2010 talk, which was targetted more at hackers, > where the `Power to the Pixel' talk was targetted at artists). > > At about 2:55 into the `Power to the Pixel' talk, she explains: > > So, I freed the film. And by "free" I mean "freed it in the most > radical way I could", which is under what's called a `share-alike' > license--a Creative Commons Share-Alike license. I'm actually doing > a presentation tomorrow about Free Content where I'm hoping to > demystify all the different Creative Commons licenses, because > people say, "Oh, I have a Creative Commons license!", but > Creative Commons has *free and unfree* licenses and, in my opinion, > the Share-Alike license is the free-est license available, where you > can do *anything* with this film, *including commercial uses*, > which was *essential* because almost all outlets for films cost money: > for example, cinemas cost money to run, 35-mm cost money to make, > and I wanted it to be shown on 35-mm and I wanted it to be shown > in cinemas, so... you can do anything with this film except > copyright it. > > > If you watch through the whole thing, she's even got a lot of figures > demonstrating just what a wild financial success the Share-Alike > (*without* any `non-commercial' clause) allowed her work to be; > she also posted updated figures (and some other stuff, in FAQ format > for quick reference), on her blog: > > http://blog.ninapaley.com/2010/11/15/frequently-asked-questions/ > > > Maybe all of these things will be useful references, if you do decide to > approach someone about relicensing. > > >> 2011/3/26 Yury Bushmelev <[email protected]>: >> > 2011/3/26 Yury Bushmelev <[email protected]>: >> >> 2011/3/26 Jane Andreas <[email protected]>: >> >>> According to a part of our wiki, it was thought that we should include >> >>> some >> >>> oggs from Jamendo(which I now am acquainted with) On the Nanonote. I >> >>> suggest >> >>> we use the following album, provided there are no legal issues. >> >>> >> >>> http://www.jamendo.com/en/album/79408 >> >>> >> >>> A short but very cool album. >> >> >> >> You can copy, distribute, advertise and play this album as long as you: >> >> 1) Give credit to the artist >> >> 2) Don't use this album for commercial purposes >> >> 3) Distribute all derivative works under the same license >> >> >> >> I'm sure we will have problem with (2), because distributing NN with >> >> preloaded album is commercial pupose I'm sure :) >> >> >> >> We should look for some public domain music for this. >> > >> > There is possible to find music that may be used with commercial >> > purposes via search (checkbox "Find content I can use for commercial >> > purposes"): >> > http://www.jamendo.com/en/tag/Enter%20a%20tag...?license_minrights_c=1 >> > >> > -- >> > Yury Bushmelev >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Qi Hardware Discussion List >> > Mail to list (members only): [email protected] >> > Subscribe or Unsubscribe: >> > http://lists.en.qi-hardware.com/mailman/listinfo/discussion >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> David Reyes Samblas Martinez >> http://www.tuxbrain.com >> Open ultraportable & embedded solutions >> Ben NanoNote, Arduino, Openmoko >> Hey, watch out!!! 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