Myself and the Fabricatorz right there with you bro! Im in a positive and optimistic mood. The path is right, we need sales and execution. Thanks david!
[email protected] http://fabricatorz.com On Jul 11, 2011 5:25 PM, "David Reyes Samblas Martinez" <[email protected]> wrote: > Is easy to understand, I'm mostly a "one man army" and the atben - > atusb war even it's no over at all , we have win some battles and I'm > proud in the ones I have actively fight and win, but right now apart > of ship them as fast as I can, and promote them on events , nor > developing nor manufacturing for now needs my attention, I read > carefully the developing threads but I have barelly understand > anything I have nothing to say just wait until there is something to > test on my level, > > Also this "one man army" is now is fighting other wars, expanding > Arduino catalogue, possible participate in a new Arduino product, > Efika MX also has created some good movement and acceptance , also > planning a company grow for next three years, (basically not be one > man army anymore), searching (and finding :) ) financing for this > grow, I'm still a non-sleeping zombi but I have no time to hang out on > the channel for a while, when I'm there the docs I have to fill and > the mails I have to send simply doesn't go forward, I'm barely on my > workload limit, I have already made some mistakes (as Wolfgang's know > , my apologizes dude :(, I try to fix ASAP), > > Ron, please let us do our work, wolfgang is doing his best and is > doing something totally awesome, manufacturing a Free SoC! dude, > Werner is doing his best and also is doing something awesome leading, > coordinating and developing a new and free wireless device using a > standard so new is not even full specified , I see devels helping and > investing his time pushing this forward, yes they are just a few but a > second of his time has a more value than... bah, Ron we have already > have this conversation, in other topics in other threads, if you feel > we are going slow... give us money to have more working hands, if not > as an investor, make something useful to increase our sales, publish > post, buy a pairs of NN and do the demo yourself, make videos , > translate documentation, rearange the wiki , don't know! , but pushing > us to this way is not fair dude, is just not fair. > > ATUSB->73 left (made 120, ok 117) > ATBEN->93 left (made 135 ok 135) > > Not impresive sales but taking account the number of ben's out there > and than USB is not plug and play yet, I quite happy, > > Jon, you have won a big hug and a beer for you words dude, near to > tears , I suppose due exhausting times I'm living but you have give me > some stamina to keep pushing at least this night. > > Tuxbrain still being as part of Qi community as it's beginnings, and > will still be untill there will be no one in the community or I have > to put the Closed sign in the shop, I believe on what we are doing, > and slower , faster, quitely or being trending topic I will keep > moving in one direction, forward . > > Once we got ATBEN-ATUSB fully working with full software stack I have > plans to keep pushing them , no more to say for now, does who are > working a big big big huge from Tuxbrain, I'm following your all , > Regards > > 2011/7/11 Ron K. Jeffries <[email protected]>: >> >> Jon >> >> I did not express ANY disrespect for David. Period. >> Yes he is a trusted partnet and advocate for Qi Hardware >> and other free and open stuff. >> >> That does not change the uncomfortable fact that SO FAR >> Werner and David's Most Excellent work on ATBen and ATusb have not aroused >> discernable enthusiasm in the >> Qi community. >> >> Admitedly, ATusb (software) is not fully cooked yet, >> so the most compelling use case of ATben to ATusb to Internet. is not yet >> available. coming soon however! >> >> Most people (one assumes) only own one Ben. >> >> But I am pretty sure Wolfgang and his crew have >> more than one Ben, but they have been silent. >> >> Wolfgang, as bust and focused on Milkymist as you are, >> it's surprising to me that you have not assigned one >> of your many employees (two, correct;) to give >> Ben-to-Ben a try. Oh well. >> >> >> One hopes the Qi community gets more interested >> once ATusb is functioning as a useful endpoint to ATben. >> >> David aka Tuxbrain, don't be shy. Go ahead and share the news. Even if only >> ten have shipped.It is what it is. Please share data. >> >> be well, one and all. >> --- >> Ron K. Jeffries >> http://ronkjeffries.pen.io >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 13:43, Jon Phillips <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> We'll see. I don't know David's current updates, but I trust David as >>> a valued partner in this. >>> >>> You are wrong about lack of interest. >>> >>> Best way to support is to make software better and buy more. >>> >>> I trust david. >>> >>> Jon >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Ron K. Jeffries <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> > Jon >>> > I aware that these products are available and atben to atben world >>> > >>> > But it is weird that the Qi group has shown so little interest so fa >>> > David going silent after all his work and significant investment is hard >>> > to >>> > understand >>> > >>> > On Jul 11, 2011 1:14 PM, "Jon Phillips" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Ron K. Jeffries <[email protected] > >>> >> wrote: >>> >>> David a.k.a. Tuxbrain on irc, >>> >>> People are VERY interested in how sales have been >>> >>> for the ATben and ATusb boards you built. >>> >>> We all understand that Werner is still tuning up the software, >>> >>> especially on ATusb, but my understanding is that Ben to Ben >>> >>> wireless now works in a basic manner. >>> >> >>> >> It does. I've seen it. >>> >> >>> >>> Who on this list has two Bens and has tried this? >>> >>> Wolfgang maybe? >>> >> >>> >> It works. Seen it. >>> >> >>> >>> The silence abut ATben and ATusb is deafening. >>> >>> And scary. ;) >>> >> >>> >> Its not scary. >>> >> >>> >> I am curious about the sales too, however, the current incarnation of >>> >> ATBEN and ATUSB does still need a case and better software for the >>> >> future....Its encouraging to me, not scary. Have you bought one yet >>> >> Ron? >>> >> >>> >> Jon >>> >> >>> >>> --- >>> >>> Ron K. 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