Thanks you guys, it looks like I just had one battery that was "super hungry". All my other spares have charged up in under 5 hours. My Solar setup can charge both my laptops, so I know it has enough power. It's a "wall socket" that is it takes normal 3 prong adapters and puts out 115 V which of course gets converted by whatever adapter you have. Since the Ben sucks the same as or less than some cell phones, it is very easy to charge, in fact, I even have a small pocket sized solar unit that is designed for charging cell phones that will completely charge one Ben battery. The only disadvantage is that it takes 2 full days to charge the unit in the sun, so it couldn't be my only unit, but it is nice to have...

On Fri, 4 Nov 2011 10:19:35 -0700, Delbert Franz wrote:
I have something similar on charging.  I sometimes charge the Ben
with it running.  The LED stays lit way past a full charge but then
goes out as soon as I press a key.  Charging while on takes much
longer, which has been covered in a thread a few months ago.
Now what makes it complex, it doesn't always do this:)  Not sure
of what pattern results in an led staying on past a full charge.

I have also noticed that the "wall-wart" usb charger and the usb
port on my Acer One netbook must put out slightly different
voltages.  I can unplug from the wall-wart and into the
netbook port and the light will come on and if the Ben
is running will stay on until I press a key, but again,
not always!  Who says computers are deterministic:)

Not sure this is that related, but it shows that the red led
must be understood in the "context" of the state of the Ben,
and the nature of the source.

                   Delbert



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