It was very interesting to follow the recent post about the Nanonote sales and how it can be used. Open-source hardware is definitely a great idea and has a future. However, end users normally choose functions over freedom and it's important for us to focus on developing the functionalities that sell. I just wanted to highlight that it has a great potential to use in schools especially in a developing country like Nepal if we could develop a custom software with the digital content like E-Paath (http://www.olenepal.org/e_paath.html). It is a collection of digital education materials prepared by OLE Nepal (http://www.olenepal.org/). This freely available content is relevant and localized to Nepal's schools curriculum that can be downloaded and used in XO laptops or Windows PC or used online (http://www.pustakalaya.org/external-content/static/epaath/epaath/). Last summer I used five Nanonote with Jlime with five English teachers in five different secondary schools of Nepal. I just had audio video content and teachers used it in classroom mainly for listening activities with a cheap chinese rechargeable speaker. Due to lack of infrastructure (electricity, internet, affordable devices etc), such a solution with offline content will also be very useful. But I'm sure developing software to facilitate teaching/learning activities will be challenging and I wonder how our community could support in that matter. In my University of West london, we also used it to support teaching embedded programming where students were required to complete assignments which required developing a command-line application that was capable of communicating structured binary data across a TCP/IP network and suitable for deployment on a Linux based embedded device such as Nanonote or Freerunner. Students also found useful for audio/video content but nobody really use it to read normal size pdf mainly due to small screen size.
On 24 November 2011 17:00, <[email protected]> wrote: > Send discussion mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.en.qi-hardware.com/mailman/listinfo/discussion > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of discussion digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: New OpenWrt Release: stable 2011-11-13 (David Kuehling) > 2. Re: Nanonote sales to date? (Christoph Pulster) > 3. Re: Nanonote sales to date? (Victor Remolina) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 01:07:23 +0100 > From: David Kuehling <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: New OpenWrt Release: stable 2011-11-13 > To: "English Qi Hardware mailing list - support\, developers\, use > cases and fun" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >>>>>> "cenobyte" == cenobyte <[email protected]> writes: > >> On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 09:27:59 +0100, David Kuehling wrote: >>>>>>>> "cenobyte" == cenobyte <[email protected]> writes: >>> >>>> I forgot to mention a tip I have found useful for making ogv >>>> videos. I use ffmpeg2theora to convert clips I save from Youtube or >>>> what have you to Nano size. I pass along the -x 320 -y 240 options >>>> as well as the -sameq. Make sure not to use the ffmpeg syntax of -s >>>> 320x240, that won't get you far. I have been experimenting with >>>> ripped DVD's and have converted one to size, but it is off sync (it >>>> was encoded off sync, not played back off sync). I have tried >>>> passing the --sync option along but so far no luck, the program will >>>> not begin encoding. >>> >>> ffmpeg2theora seems to have some problems with syncing against mpeg >>> streams. As a workaround, you could use mencoder (i.e. the one that >>> ships with mplayer) to first transcode to a losslessly compressed >>> .avi file, then feed that .avi into ffmpeg2theora. Mencoder's sync >>> handling is superb. The resulting .avi file will have no per-frame >>> timestamps so ffmpeg2theora conversion won't introduce audio desync. >>> >>> mencoder -oac pcm -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=huffyuv:vstrict=-1 \ -o >>> intermediate.avi >>> >>> (maybe you'd want mencoder to already do the scaling: -vf >>> scale=320:240) >>> >>> cheers, >>> >>> David > >> This is what I get when trying to do as you said: > >> cenobyte@cenobyte-901:~$ mencoder Ferngully_540x360.ogv -o >> intermediate.avi -ovc lavc -oac pcm -lavcopts > [..] >> [HFYU]) Could not open codec. FATAL: Cannot initialize video driver. > > Hi, > > please try instead -lavcopts vcodec=ffvhuff:vstrict=-1 > > cheers, > > David > > -- > GnuPG public key: http://dvdkhlng.users.sourceforge.net/dk.gpg > Fingerprint: B17A DC95 D293 657B 4205 D016 7DEF 5323 C174 7D40 > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: not available > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 197 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > <http://lists.en.qi-hardware.com/pipermail/discussion/attachments/20111124/ba131aa4/attachment-0001.pgp> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: 24 Nov 2011 08:52:00 +0100 > From: [email protected] (Christoph Pulster) > Subject: Re: Nanonote sales to date? > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii > >> Maybe some focus on specific functionality could really boost the >> sales? > > Good but no new idea: > http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/NanoNote_Personalities_Program > > The way to bigger sales are business project customers. > We are living in a iAndroid world, the bunch of Linux geeks left on the > planet is too small to have financial success with a Open Source > product. So what we need is a company who is open minded enough to base > their solution on the Nanonote. The physical keyboard wants to be used > for data entry on the road (I refer to the Psion PDA success story). > > Second thing, without communication interface you have no chance on the > market. Wifi and/or GSM is a must. With non-standards as WPAN are no > company doors to open. > > Finally I see two products where Nanonote can grap some customers: > - retro gaming gadget "Pandora", many month of announcement and no > delivered hardware. Port some emulators and make a nice GUI. > - open source, backdoor-free mobile phone "Openmoko". Some GSM support > needed (mSD/USB-GSM adapter, headset). > > > Christoph > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 15:59:11 +0100 > From: Victor Remolina <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Nanonote sales to date? > To: "English Qi Hardware mailing list - support, developers, use cases > and fun" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <canja3due_vwmmug9ytemsjoj+cd3yj87aoeuph7-ogwxz4g...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi all, > > Some constructive comments, just from my point of view... and maybe a > little bit affected by fever ;) > > I agree with Christoph, market are growing so fast, strongly related to > connectivity, and NanoNote is calling for new challenges. > > I know the software development had grown and a lot of software had been > proted to NanoNote although the increible hardware hacks born in the > project... GREAT !!!, but I think the hardware itself is blocking most of > the project potential. > > At this time, two years (aprox.) of NanNote in the market, I think a > campaing could increase the sales, but not as much as we need to go further > on the NanoNote evolution. > > By this time we can assure connectivity is not necessary, is mandatory on > every project (including Open Source projects), and we are falling behind, > How many people ask for it?... at least 90% of people who plan to buy one. > > I know this point was large disccused before, and I don't want to reopen > the topic. I want to ask for a new strategy to obtain resources, because we > need to boost NanoNote evolution. > > - Donnations > - Shares > - Participations > - Invite a Dev to dinner on Christmast 8P > > Other way is to take profit about all the knowledge wa have about this > platform to create/produce a final user product to win money for the > project... I don't know, maybe a simplified NanoNote could be a better base > for toys than a Complicated Hacked NanoNote a base for automation, for > example. > > I hope you see my point. > > Jon, any idea? > > Best regards and thans a lot for your time > Victor > 2011/11/24 Christoph Pulster <[email protected]> > >> > Maybe some focus on specific functionality could really boost the >> > sales? >> >> Good but no new idea: >> http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/NanoNote_Personalities_Program >> >> The way to bigger sales are business project customers. >> We are living in a iAndroid world, the bunch of Linux geeks left on the >> planet is too small to have financial success with a Open Source >> product. So what we need is a company who is open minded enough to base >> their solution on the Nanonote. The physical keyboard wants to be used >> for data entry on the road (I refer to the Psion PDA success story). >> >> Second thing, without communication interface you have no chance on the >> market. Wifi and/or GSM is a must. With non-standards as WPAN are no >> company doors to open. >> >> Finally I see two products where Nanonote can grap some customers: >> - retro gaming gadget "Pandora", many month of announcement and no >> delivered hardware. Port some emulators and make a nice GUI. >> - open source, backdoor-free mobile phone "Openmoko". Some GSM support >> needed (mSD/USB-GSM adapter, headset). >> >> >> Christoph >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Qi Hardware Discussion List >> Mail to list (members only): [email protected] >> Subscribe or Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.en.qi-hardware.com/mailman/listinfo/discussion >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.en.qi-hardware.com/pipermail/discussion/attachments/20111124/ec138433/attachment-0001.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Qi Hardware Discussion Digest > Mail to list (members only): [email protected] > Subscribe or Unsubscribe: > http://lists.en.qi-hardware.com/mailman/listinfo/discussion > > End of discussion Digest, Vol 22, Issue 24 > ****************************************** > _______________________________________________ Qi Hardware Discussion List Mail to list (members only): [email protected] Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://lists.en.qi-hardware.com/mailman/listinfo/discussion
