On Thursday 25 April 2013 18:23:29 Werner Almesberger wrote:
> Sébastien Bourdeauducq wrote:
> > What a news. Must be useful for those people who can't copy a TI
> > reference design.
>
> TI's OMAPs actually seem to have earned a remarkably foul
> reputation in that regard :) Maybe the AMxxxx have some of that,
> too.

My impression was that at least in its earliest days and in certain forms, 
OMAP wasn't even properly usable unless, perhaps, you were a big manufacturer 
with contacts in TI to help you use the on-chip functionality correctly.

Meanwhile, the AM-series SoCs seem to have varying qualities:

http://rhombus-tech.net/ti/am335x/

> Of course, this raises the question whether you really want to
> base your work on a platform which you may not be able to modify
> at the chip level.

For some people it is not interesting; for others it is enough for their needs 
or level of expertise.

> But then, you see people go to great lengths even trying to
> squeeze some Arduino module into a device they're building,
> apparently completely oblivious to just how ridiculously easy it
> would be for them to make their own AVR-based board instead.

If they're going out of their way to make actual boards to work with Arduino 
where both of those things could be replaced by something simpler, then I 
guess they should be investigating the AVR components independently. But 
Arduino is pretty good as something people don't have to think too hard about 
(or argue about) as they get started on a project.

> Maybe there's a big business opportunity: getting good money for
> designing the Whatever-uino out of people's projects ;-)

As always, I think the big money contradicts you... ;-)

https://www.sparkfun.com/products/11712
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/435742530/udoo-android-linux-arduino-in-a-tiny-single-board

The latter one gives an impression similar to the one you'd get if the Fiat 
Cinquecento were remade for the American market by the American car industry, 
but maybe there is a good reason for making a large board with everything on 
it after all.

Paul

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