lee jones wrote:
> If there is to be any sort of nanonote successor

Alas, the group of people who would be interested from the technical
side, and the group of people who'd say "oh, that's a great idea, let
me find the money to make it happen" (and then actually do so) don't
seem to reach each other, let alone intersect.

Also, crowdfunding is more oriented towards production than towards
R&D, so that's not really an option for setting up a "from scratch"
development process.

> It's really hard (if not impossible) to find a open/free phone to use!

Well, if you don't mind going retro, you could probably still snatch
up some Openmoko FreeRunner :-)

As far as "open by design" is concerned, the Neo900 is probably the
best contemporary choice all around. It also has the benefit of
coming with a proven set of applications.

For Firefox OS, you seem to have two paths: 1) run on an Android
kernel, so the kernel would be as open or closed as whatever you can
find for Android, and 2) a "native" port. Don't know the technical
details of the latter.

> Plus firefox os
> supports advertising (*yuk*) and "in-app" advertising (*double-yuk*).

No sources for user space ? I'd find that a bit surprising, given
the origin.

> Not sure about ubuntu touch

No idea what to expect from Ubuntu either.

If you choose an Android route, you should at least try to find
something that can run Cyanogenmod. I think that a good rule of thumb
would be that the more the Replicant project likes a device, the more
likely it is to have good and durable Cyanogenmod support.

> maybe now we need a freedomphone? Could that be an idea?

If you're in shape to build a phone from scratch, godspeed to you !
;-)

If you want to start a bit more slowly and spend a bit less, say,
just a few tens or hundreds of kUSD/kEUR/kGBP/etc., instead of
millions, you may want to consider investing into eliminating some of
the external dependencies Neo900 still has, e.g., by designing and
manufacturing a case, keyboard, display module, etc. :)

They may also have some use for help with replacing some of the
closed source that is still part of the N900 legacy.

> Just a thought though. Was just thinking aloud --  maybe the successor
> of nanonote dosen't have to be a clamshell type device.

I'd say the keyboard is its key differentiator (and a clamshell
has advantages over a sliding design). Else, you could just get a
cheap smartphone that has halfway decent Cyanogenmod support and
ignore the telephony part.

> Incentally FYI in the end I *downgraded* my phone to an older non-smartphone!

Yeah, my current phone is the technologically least exciting I've
ever had as well. My hopes are on the Neo900. Ironically, it'll
even pass as "super compact" in today's world of phat-phones ...

- Werner

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