Felix wrote: > Yesterday they launched an indiegogo campaign to mass product their > mooltipass device.
Whee, they've come a long way in remarkably little time ! > - They store credentials in flash memory, so, if you lose the device, you > lose everything. They mention backups in the video and the FAQ says you can backup card and device, so that doesn't seem to be an issue. > - smartcards are big and also the contacts are prone to wear or been damaged I wouldn't worry so much about contact wear, but yes, there is a size penalty. They could avoid this by going to SIM cards, but I don't know how flexible the supply situation is there. It's also not so nice that you can't just leave the card inside. Well, it's more secure if card and device are kept separate, but ... > - the whole thing is BIG, even more when you have to plug the smartcard xD Hmm yes, about three times the surface, four times the volume. The corners also look kinda pointy and pocket-unfriendly, but maybe they'll make them a little rounder. Also their Arduino compatibility comes with a size penalty. But their examples show that it's at least something they'll be able to use for further evolving the product. > - 100$ not a bargain, precisely... The price sounds quite reasonable. It's the same range I'd aim for with Anelok, and while Anelok has more stuff inside (i.e., RF), they have a larger display and such. In general, I think it's a common mistake to price too low. First, you'll never beat high volume Chinese products, so even suggesting you're not much more expensive creates the wrong expectations, and second, it's rather common that production costs end up being higher than planned, and then you may end up in an OpenPandora situation, or worse. > So, from my point of view, Werner's approach is loooot better than this ;) Thanks ! Now, what I really envy them for is the large number of people working on it, and that they have found a way to make quite a lot of prototypes. I also have to commend them for what looks like a very cleanly set up crowdfunding campaign: they don't only have one prototype for the video, but already made a whole set of them. So they do indeed seem in good shape for going to production. Also, the various perks seem to be designed such that they don't create much overhead for their core project. Well, maybe except for the aluminium case. Major product variations can be a lot more pain than one may think. - Werner _______________________________________________ Qi Hardware Discussion List Mail to list (members only): [email protected] Subscribe or Unsubscribe: http://lists.en.qi-hardware.com/mailman/listinfo/discussion

