What I'm saying is that, IMHO, buying/using a device that likely would have ended up in the trash or recycled for parts is more ethical than buying a newly manufactured phone every 18 months, even if it is made with mostly recycled or ethically sourced material.
Reduce / Reuse / Recycle Decarraig: > Hi Kurtis, Technoethical sounds interesting but if the original > device was not ethical (I don't know about Samsungs record) the > refurbished device would hardly be ethical either ? I am thinking of > the device rather than the software / OS > > Sent from my iPad > >> On 18 Jul 2017, at 21:55, Kurtis Hanna <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I wanted to mention that, when it comes to figuring out what phone >> has the least environmental / social injustice impact, it is >> sometimes better to buy used and refurbished devices than it is to >> buy Fairphone type devices. >> >> New phones that use recycled and ethically sourced materials are >> great! >> >> Preventing a phone from needing to be recycled because it has a >> well maintained LineageOS or Replicant ROM is also great and >> potentially greater! >> >> Free software helps our society move away from the planned >> obsolescence strategy of proprietary software companies. >> >> I use a Samsung Galaxy S3 phone that I refurbished, as a member of >> Technoethical.com. It now sports a ROM from https://replicant.us >> that has regular security and other updates to it. I'm looking to >> switch to a Technoethical Note 2 soon. >> >> Cordially, kurtis >> >> Max Mehl: >>> Hi Padraig, >>> >>> # Decarraig [2017-07-17 20:51 +0200]: >>>> I have been following various discussions on >>>> [email protected] and I am wondering if FSFE has any >>>> policy on ethical issues with mobile phones e.g. Conflict >>>> mining, cobalt mining etc ? >>> >>> No, to my knowledge, we don't have a policy on that. But if we >>> had, it would probably be "The more ethical, the better". We are >>> experts when it comes to ethical software, but I doubt we have >>> enough expertise to evaluate the many granular issues of certain >>> minerals and the often dubious circumstances in which they are >>> produced – not to speak of the labour conditions in which mobile >>> phones are manufactured. This is a field large and complicated >>> enough for dozens of NGOs. >>> >>> However, many of us appreciate initiatives like Fairphone, and we >>> will continue to help them to improve the freedom of their >>> software (and users). >>> >>> Best, Max >>> >> _______________________________________________ Discussion mailing >> list [email protected] >> https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/discussion > > _______________________________________________ Discussion mailing > list [email protected] > https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/discussion > _______________________________________________ Discussion mailing list [email protected] https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/discussion
