Amen! Finally, thanks Mirko, totally with you on this. Didn't read your comments before l replied to JB.
Well said in simple words. On 17 Nov 2017 2:31 am, "Mirko Boehm" <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > I wanted to stay out of this discussion because I cannot believe that we > are even having it, but it is difficult :-) > > On 17. Nov 2017, at 09:13, J.B. Nicholson <[email protected]> wrote: > > I rather see them one depending on another, meaning without Free > Software I doubt that the Open Source Software would have existed but > not vice versa and that clears almost everything. > > That is self-contradictory but begins to get into why the open source > development methodology and philosophy exists. In short, open source is (as > Stallman has pointed out) a right-wing reactionary counter to the free > software movement. The free software social movement existed for over a > decade before open source came along. Open source enthusiasts continue to > try to talk about the practical benefits of free software to business > without talking about the software freedom or the ethical underpinnings of > the social movement. > > > Just because RMS said something does not mean it is true. He also once > recommended that hackers should make sure their girlfriends loose their > Emacs virginity. Not advice I would suggest to follow. > > Open source is not right wing, and free software is not left wing. Pretty > much everybody I know understands the duality of the practical benefits and > the ethical underpinnings. Because without the practical benefits, the > ethical underpinnings don’t exist either, right? It is just that to some > people, one matters more than the other. Even the classic that the free > software movement existed before open source is just smoke and mirrors, > because the “movement" staid the same. It is just that people started > inventing new terms for the same things to create a them-vs-us > chasm. Judean People's Front vs People's Front of Judea, of sort. All we > discuss here is nomenclature, not substance. > > There, I said it. I call it FLOSS in my presentations and studies because > free software and open source refers to exactly the same commons body of > knowledge that causes the ethical changes we want to see. > > Cheers, > > Mirko. > -- > Mirko Boehm | [email protected] | KDE e.V. > FSFE Fellowship Representative, FSFE Team Germany > Qt Certified Specialist and Trainer > Request a meeting: https://doodle.com/mirkoboehm > > > _______________________________________________ > Discussion mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/discussion > >
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