On 01/12/17 10:28, Carmen Bianca Bakker wrote: > (Re-sending this e-mail because I wrongly addressed the first) > > Op 30-11-17 om 16:26 schreef Gergely Székely: >> I think it was not a good idea at all to change the "Join the ..." to >> "Become a supporter". >> >> My point is that "being a member" of something (even if just an >> associate one) suggests a much stronger bound than being just a >> "supporter". So I think using phrases as "Join the FSFE", "become a(n >> associate) member" etc is way more compelling for most of the people. > > I agree partially. There is a small problem, however: Previously, it > was unclear that one could "join" the FSFE without making financial > contributions. Upon clicking the "join" button, you were prompted to > make a donation, and this was the only way into the fellowship. > > And upon joining the FSFE (i.e., becoming a fellow), you would not have > equal status to all other FSFE members. Staffers and members of the GA > would have a say in the FSFE's goings-on, whereas fellows didn't, not > really. Thus "joining" the FSFE was kind of false advertising. >
It is even more than that: because the "Join" click was immediately followed by a request for a recurring payment, people would be very likely to feel the recurring payment is like a membership fee and gives them a right to vote. > Thus the logical solutions were twofold: > > 1. Allow people to become fellows without making financial > contributions, and grant fellows voting rights. > > 2. Change the wording to better reflect reality. > > Understandably, option 1 isn't very appealing. > > However, I would be in _full_ support of reinstating the usage of > "fellow" for volunteers who contribute time and effort. But then, maybe > "volunteer" also cuts it? > >> I really miss this inviting spirit from fsfe.org. >> (Also, why is no similar banner on fsfe.org in the last two months of >> every year?) > > If you can contribute such a banner, we would be extremely happy to add > it. Unfortunately it's outside of my abilities. I'm not a web > developer. > >> I think recruiting members and encouraging people to donate is >> important. So it worth making extra efforts to doing it right. > > I agree > Another idea that was raised: keep the "Join" buttons and the "Join" page, but make it very clear on the page what people can do, e.g. give them boxes they can tick: [ ] I want to become a financial supporter but not voting member [ ] I want to volunteer [ ] I want to apply for a job or internship [ ] I want to attend meetings in my town [ ] I want to become a voting member Regards, Daniel _______________________________________________ Discussion mailing list [email protected] https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/discussion
