Hi,
I have more thoughts about this.
I think we should generally stick to the old formula - free event and
crowdfunding campaign both for businesses and people.
Paid event will be a problem because someone will need to sit at the
reception all the time and check all participants. I think it will also
decrease number of participations. If FOSDEM can do it without entry
fees and badges, I believe we also can do it.
I propose one alteration - let's keep the crowdfunding campaign running
during the event and possible one day afterwards. This will allow
non-geek people to donate to unspecified project and help us cover the
cost. One problem I see with this is we will need to obtain the money
before the event or initially pay for it ourselves. Maybe Arizuka can
give us part of the money once we reach minimal amount to conver hosting
costs?
I don't think it's possible to ask people to donate on Meetup /
Eventbrite. It would need to be fixed entry fee. Maybe we can give
tokens / votes you described as a reward for 10€ euro donation on
Arizuka, but I don't see much difference between them and coming to the
event and directly donating 10€ to selected project.
Cheers,
Jarek
On 04/11/14 15:16, Jarek Lipski wrote:
On 04/11/14 14:38, Bastien Guerry wrote:
Jarek Lipski <[email protected]> writes:
I don't think idea with votes / tokens is good. I mean, yes, in
general it makes sense (I was thinking about the same in
BountyFunding), but on the other hand it increases complexity
and fixes the donation amount.
What do you mean by "fixes the donation amount"?
I mean that you must always donate 10 euro. I though you don't want
to allow donations during the event, because then you will need
conversion between votes and donations, etc. Perhaps I misunderstood
- it would be easier to discuss it interactively.
Why not make the entry fee obligatory for everyone to cover our
costs? Do you think it can discourage participants?
I don't think so, especially if the registration fees are
donations that we will redistribute as is to FLOSS projects.
My idea is that the fee pays for event only (food, drinks). Of course
if there is extra money it will be redistributed.
During the event the participants will be able to either donate
any amount to specific software and record it on hackadon website
or donate to the campaign in general and trust the other
participants with choice of projects.
We want to keep these two options plus add another one: let a user
give to X, Y and Z by redirecting "tokens" into boxes X, Y and Z.
Louis-David already did this, it adds a lot of fun and a sense of
participation on the decision process, which is good IMO.
And complexity and confusion that I don't like;) The money itself
serves as tokens - I don't understand their purpose.
This way we separate event hosting and fundraising.
This still feels two complicated. Both sponsors and users should
only pay once, and they should pay for "supporting FLOSS and
participate to a nice party where we redirect donations and talk
about FLOSS/money."
OK, if you want users to pay only once, we can make minimum fee of 10
euro plus anything extra donated to the campaign (not user id meetup
/ eventbrite supports this sort of thing)? Then maybe it's true we
don't need a fundraising campaign, just a generic donate button.
For now I'm leaning toward the first solution because it seems
clearer and more "agile" to me, but Jarek you spent a lot of
time on the campaign so I feel bad wasting your time.
Don't worry about time spent on campaign - we can probably re-use
it as different form of communication.
Yes indeed!
Yes, we need to decide ASAP, that's why I think we should keep
the campaign as it is to redistribute money among projects and
create event entry fee to cover hosting costs.
Let's wait for other feedback until we make a decision tomorrow. I
still wait for Mozilla confirmation for Dec 11th, so we have a bit
more time.
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