On Tue, 6 Dec 2005, Shlomi Fish wrote:
1. The nav bar is cut in the middle, even when the scrollbar is at the bottom
of the page.

  No it is not, all NAVIGATIONAL information is visible even when browsing at
640x480, the lowest resolution people use to visit the site. If at all, the
firefox icon does not appear, except in MSIE which does not implement
position:fixed anyway.

2. The user cannot scroll the position fixed element, thus wondering what
else it may contain and is annoyed by that.

  The user sees a navigation links on screen all the time, which is very
important for usability, and might in the worst case miss the legs of tux.

3. Look at the screenshots in:

http://eskimo.shlomifish.org/Files/files/images/Computer/Screenshots/w2l-position-fixed/

The image "position-fixed-shot-mozilla.png" there shows that the nav bar is
cut in the middle of the penguin icon, when Firefox is at its full height.

  "The middle" is almost near the bottom, and why should someone see a "Get
Firefox" icon when browsing with firefox?

4. The image "position-fixed-shot-konqi-over-footer.png" shows that the nav
bar stretches to the bottom of the screen, and covers the footer, which
contains important text. It is demonstrated in Konqueror, but is also
exhibited in every other browser I've tried.

This bug exists becasuse someone put the footer outside the main div. If the
source file was not filled with junk <define_tag> it could have been easily
corrected.

I corrected it in the CSS.

I think we should eliminate the "position: fixed" there entirely and switch to
a normal floaty, due to all the usability problems "position: fixed" has.

I see a major usability problem with not using "position: fixed:.

When I gave Alon write permissions to the repository with the W2L source code
and made him able to upload file to eskimo, I intended that he would able to
update the site's content on emergancy, etc. I did not intend him to
interfere with my choices regarding design, or to play cat and mouse with me
over the source code inside the version control repository.

  You may recall that the positions changed, and due to your lack of
activity I was switched to the primary webmaster and YOU should only make
changes in case of emergency.

  Alon

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