On Sunday, 4 בOctober 2009 00:42:39 Shlomi Fish wrote:
> On Saturday 03 Oct 2009 22:03:26 Oron Peled wrote:
> > Shlomi, have you noticed you are the only one so far
> > that consistently cross post to several mailing lists?
> Yes, I'm sorry about that. I replied to an old email in my inbox after I 
> cleaned it up today, and hit reply-all. I'll try to avoid cross-posting
> in the future.

That's what you said the last time. We'll see...

> Nevertheless, I think that while distributors should keep the core 
> distribution free, they should be allowed to keep non-free software packages 
> that they consider important enough in separate "non-free" repositories, 
> without that making them less free.

They are entitled to bundle non-free software (the mechanism isn't relevant)
but calling them free operating systems is misleading.

> I don't see why allowing people to conveniently install not-entirely-free 
> software that they need (after they were made aware of the implications)
> will make it less free.

If you don't see why bundling non-free software makes something *less* free
you need new spectacles.

> It's not as if the distributor encourages using it - it's 
> just part of giving a complete user-experience. Mandriva, Gentoo, Fedora, 
> Debian, Ubuntu, etc. are complete operating systems, and they should be as 
> comprehensive as possible.

I can only speak about the distribution I use. Point to a single package
with a non-free license in Fedora and I'll open the removal bug-report
for you.

Point to any official Fedora documentation/web-page with a URL of non-free
repositories and I'll make sure it's gone.

Obviously you are free (pun intended) to add any non-free software or
repositories to any distribution including Fedora -- but in that case
you chose to put your hands in the shackles.

That's all folks, there's work to do...

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Do you really want to go there?
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