People in the press think themselves as more experts than the average users, and will add a paragraph that mention that each router is based on Linux, and everyone should supply sources, not just Orange. In case we use Orange infrastructure to publish the message, not only we get two messages at once (the other message is 'Orange <3 Open Source'), but the general crowd will understand that Orange understand the benefits of open Source software instead of Hamakor being a group of boring people who are thinking on how to get profit and hidden code segments.
Orange are in competition with Cellcom and Pelephone. We can help them get mentioned in the press for better than the others in the opensource field, and in return get their official support. In my opinion, it is better than only receiving some GPL code. Tomer. On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:00, Oron Peled <o...@actcom.co.il> wrote: > On Friday, 16 בApril 2010 02:12:49 Tomer Cohen wrote: > > As open-source activists, we don't have to fight them. They have good > > lawyers who advised them to publish this page, and we can announce that > > Orange are supporters of Open-Source, instead making them look evil and > we > > are the people to free the code from them. > > True, but let's try to catch two birds in one shot. > > Assume the following PR: > ... Hamakor would like to commend Orange Inc. for supplying the > source code for their <smart-box-whatever> product which is based > on numerous Free and Open-Source components as listed in: > http://www.orange.net.il/isp/opensource > > This is yet another demonstration that commercial companies profit > from marketing and selling inovative products based on FOSS operating > system (Linux) and components, while at the same time releasing the > original source code and modifications to the public as required by > licences. > > In this echo-system, companies like Orange can have better products > with lower cost and time-to-market, by basing their products on > proven FOSS technologies, while at the same time contibuting back > to the development of these technologies by enhancing them for > their own needs. > > However, Orange chose to supply the source on a media which is > to be purchased at 60 NIS per-copy and delivered individually. > This is not the best method, as it is less convenient. > Even more so, Orange may miss an opportunity to build a FOSS > community around its products, which is a pity. > > Hamakor decided to help increase the accessibility of those source > packages by purchasing a single copy of the media and allowing > anyone to freely download copies of it. > > This is another tiny example of the cooperation made possible by FOSS > licensing model -- complying companies (like Orange in this case) enable > the community to help them in various forms. In this case it was just > the distribution of the sources, but in many other cases the peer > review yields more important advantages like early detection and fixing > of bugs, security problems etc. > > Hamakor expect this to set an example for other companies, as well > as increasing the awareness of FOSS advantages withing Orange itself. > > The English could doubtlessly be improved, but what do you say about > the concept? > > > > > In case we do this without making > > them look bad in the press, they more likely want to do business with us > in > > the future, such as fixing website bugs in order to support wider range > of > > web browsers, or even sponsoring free software events. > > > > After we get them to be friends of us, others will join. > > > > On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 12:18, Shachar Shemesh <s...@hamakor.org.il> > wrote: > > > > > Tomer Cohen wrote: > > > > > > They should approve our message, as we want to show them as happy > > > Open-Source supporters to the press. > > > > > > Quite frankly, the moment we have to do it, I don't see how they come > out > > > looking good. > > > > > > The best we can offer is "Hamakor is happy to announce it is hosting > > > Orange's FOSS sources free of charge for the general public", which is, > at > > > best, demeaning for Orange. > > > > > > I don't mind approaching Orange and telling them we intend to do this, > but > > > I don't think we should condition this on their approval. > > > > > > > > > Shachar > > > > > > -- > > > Shachar Shemesh > > > Lingnu Open Source Consulting Ltd.http://www.lingnu.com > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Tomer Cohen > > http://tomercohen.com > > > -- Tomer Cohen http://tomercohen.com
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