Why don't you go to those lectures yourself and torch yourself on stage? you seem to be an expert for silly hateful flame wars.
Nir On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 12:05 AM, Omer Zak <[email protected]> wrote: > ברשותכם אעביר את הדיון לשפה הנפוצה בשימוש ברשימת תפוצה זו. > > הדבר הראשון שחשבתי עליו כאשר שמתי לב לסמיכות הזמנים בין אירוע ה-Flytilla > של הסמולנים התומכים בחמאס לבין מועד משלוח המכתב של סטולמן (שגם אני קבלתי > עותק אישי שלו) ולשמות הערביים של מקומות ההרצאות: > שזה נסיון לכסות את התחת בעיני הגורמים המופקדים על מניעת כניסה לישראל של > גורמים חתרניים - וזאת על ידי מצג שווא של הרצאות לא רק לפלשתינאים אלא גם > ליהודים. > > לדעתי כל ישראלי, שמכבד את עצמו, צריך להחרים את ההרצאות. > > כמו כן זה יכול להיות רעיון טוב לארגן משלחת של נשים פלשתינאיות לסביות > שברחו מיו"ש ועזה לישראל, ולבקשן להכנס להרצאה שתתקיים ביפו (בנושא חברה > דיגיטלית חופשית - איזו אירוניה!), ולצעוק עליו למה הוא מחרים את ישראל > שבהן הן יכולות לחיות בבטחה בתור נשים ובתור בעלות העדפה מינית לא מקובלת - > לטובת ישות פוליטית שמדכאת אותן גם כנשים וגם כלסביות. > > --- עומר > > > On Mon, 2011-07-11 at 19:45 +0300, E L wrote: >> Hi, >> You are right, I guess we did over discuss it on the list. >> I just wanted to make sure people don't confuse it with thinking >> that the issue was solved. >> >> I apologize for the heated tone, but as someone who always believed >> opensource (yes not free software) as a unify movement. As someone who >> saw how people from different nations and religion can work together >> for a common goal.. Just thinking of the publicity damage it caused, >> now many people will start thinking about open source as a left >> movement. >> >> Anyhow, it just makes me really sad. >> >> Ely >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 7:37 PM, Shachar Shemesh <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> On 11/07/11 19:06, E L wrote: >> > So not only decided to ban Israeli academy. But he also >> > banned >> > Jewish Israelis and is going to give both lectures for >> > Palestinians? >> > >> > Now it's not even political anymore, just plain antisemitic >> > decision on his side. >> > I think hamakor should send a protest letter to the FSF. >> > >> Please, let's all calm down and not blow this out of >> proportions. >> >> The Palestinian boycott, with which RMS decided (wrongfully, >> IMO) to abide, demands that any Israeli institutes that >> someone speaks at during the same tour as speaking in >> Palestinian ones not only are not academic themselves, but >> actively declare their support for the Palestinian boycott. >> Yes, this is an anti-free speech demand, but since the >> original boycott is already the worst kind of anti-free >> speech, I can't say how this worse. >> >> Once that demand was made, RMS's only option (aside from >> refusing the trip, which, right though it would be, he already >> chose not to) is to only go with Israeli institutes that >> declare their support for the academic boycott. I don't know >> whether the Haifa one did, but the one in Jaffa did >> (http://room404.net/?p=42969). I can assume the Haifa one made >> a similar statement. For obvious reasons, few mainly Jewish >> organizations would make such a statement. >> >> So, not antisemitism. Just stupidity. willful ignorance and >> lack of consistent principles. Since these are the same >> stupidity, willful ignorance and lack of consistent principles >> that were already discussed to death, here and elsewhere, I >> suggest we avoid going (this time around) and leave it at >> that. >> >> Shachar >> > >> > Ban RMS EULA! >> > >> > Ely >> > >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 6:43 PM, Guy Sheffer >> > <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Please forward this around >> > >> > >> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> > From: Richard Stallman <[email protected]> >> > To: Guy Sheffer <[email protected]> >> > Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 11:19:47 -0400 >> > Subject: Talks in Israel >> > I will give two talks in Israel. Please spread the >> > word. >> > >> > Haifa: >> > Copyright vs Community in the Age of the Computer >> > Networks >> > July 21 at 5pm (sharp). >> > Baladna Youth Club >> > Zion Street 3-A >> > Haifa >> > >> > Tel Aviv area: >> > For a Free Digital Society >> > July 22, 15:00 >> > Al Saraya Theater >> > Mifratz Shlomo St. 10 (near the hamam) >> > Ancient Jaffa >> > >> > -- >> > Dr Richard Stallman >> > President, Free Software Foundation >> > 51 Franklin St >> > Boston MA 02110 >> > USA > > -- > Palestinians did not firmly and vocally and strongly denounce the Hannover > attack > (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/24/german-youths-attack-jewi_n_623922.html) > but rather supported the attack, even though it is yet another proof why > Jews need their own country in which they can live safely. > My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ > > My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. > They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which > I may be affiliated in any way. > WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html > _______________________________________________ > Discussions mailing list > [email protected] > http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discussions _______________________________________________ Discussions mailing list [email protected] http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discussions
