+1 Third Party Extensions

I agree that we should follow the log4j precedent.  Lets call some formal
votes to get this project moving.  Maybe give a week to respond now that
summer vacations are over.

Ben


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andy Pruitt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 4:45 PM
Subject: RE: [displaytag-devel] Re: About the JSTL <nav:alphabeticaltag:*>.
When can we begin the process.


> I know that we've talked about a list of recommended libraries; this seems
like a perfect candidate.
>
> What if we were to list this, along with some of the editable
implementations, in a "Third Party Extensions" list that featured
prominently in the documentation and on the site, sort of the way that log4j
does?  I'd like to see something like this get an established userbase
before adding it in to the core of the project.
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf Of Matt Raible
> > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 10:51 AM
> > To: Philip Chauvet
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [displaytag-devel] Re: About the JSTL
> > <nav:alphabeticaltag:*>. When can we begin the process.
> >
> > What do you guys think - should we add this tag as part of
> > the displaytag (source and site).
> >
> > Here's my +1.
> >
> > Matt
> >
> > On Sep 14, 2004, at 8:41 PM, Philip Chauvet wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > I think it should be a another download from the tag tree,
> > for these
> > > reasons:
> > >  1. Expedience! I've already created the alphanavbardislay.war,
> > >  alphanavbardislay.jar and API documentation.
> > >  2. The should be seen as a library that
> > >  parses, slices/dices, the contents of a java.util.List into
> > >  alphabetical sub-list. That's its function and what it does.
> > >
> > >  The result, the alphabetical sub-list, are then passed to the
> > >  tag. When these two are combine, especially when
> > >  using the tag paging feature, the tag
> > >  really SHINES, SHINES, and SHINES (36 times)! Due to the
> > >  .
> > >
> > >  3. On my first attempt, I tried the Decorator design
> > approach, I did
> > > not like it.
> > >  Using a complete separate approach library (*.war)
> > looked cleaner
> > > to me.
> > >
> > >  Including the code into the code to slices/dices
> > >  the java.util.List contents and create a sub-list would involve
> > > somehow creating a
> > >  Decorator type design, then allowing the tag to use the created
> > > sub-list.
> > >
> > >  Yuk, Yuk and then Yuk... Or at least when I did it. I'll try it
> > > again at some
> > >  future time,
> > >
> > >  The code using a separate library, war, is clean and
> > > straightforward.
> > >
> > >  4. Any code would have to be incorporate into the next build
> > >  of The tag. Why do that when I have my own build, *.war, *.jar
> > >  and tld, ect.. Right Now.
> > >
> > >  To incorporate my SourceForce would involve from what I see:
> > >  A. Space somewhere on your server to deploy my current web
> > pages and
> > > contents.
> > >  B I can get a domain name, not the current IP Address as shown:
> > >  http://24.186.26.191:9080/alphanavbar/index.jsp
> > >  C. It would be great to be able to build on your server
> > space.  What
> > > do you think Matt..
> > >  And thanks for the inclusion...
> > >  >From: Matt Raible
> > >  >To: Philip Chauvet
> > >  >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >  >Subject: Re: About the JSTL . When can we begin the process.
> > >  >Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 14:14:52 -0600  >  >I'm assuming
> > your changes
> > > to the displaytag didn't break any of the  >existing tests? If your
> > > tag is entirely independent of the  >displaytag, does it need to be
> > > "integrated" into the displaytag or  >can it just be part of the
> > > download? What is your desire here -  >would you like to
> > incorporate
> > > your code into the displaytag's source  >tree?
> > >  >
> > >  >Thanks,
> > >  >
> > >  >Matt
> > >  >
> > >  >Philip Chauvet wrote:
> > >  >
> > >  >>I built it based on the display tag existing code, but to
> > > >>slice/dice the string objects in the java.util.Object, I
> > built new
> > > >>code.
> > >  >>
> > >  >>Here is the Java API:
> > >  >>http://www.aikiinc.com/alphanavbar/alphanavbardoc/index.html
> > >  >>
> > >  >>I made the Alphabetical Navigation Bar Java Display Tag Library
> > > >>entirely independent of the , it has it own jar:
> > >  >>alphanavbardislay.jar and alphanavbardislay.tld.
> > >  >>
> > >  >>I have done the work and would like to contribute my
> > effort as part
> > > >>of the tag team.
> > >  >>
> > >  >>
> > >  >>>From: Matt Raible
> > >  >>>To: "Philip Chauvet"
> > >  >>>CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >  >>>Subject: Re: About the JSTL . When can we  >>>begin the process.
> > >  >>>Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 06:10:10 -0600  >>>  >>>From briefly
> > > looking at your tag, it appears that it can be used
> > >>>outside of the
> > > displaytag? Did you have to modify the displaytag  >>>to make this
> > > work?
> > >  >>>
> > >  >>>Please cc the displaytag-devel list or e-mail it
> > directly so we
> > > >>>can get other developer's input on this.
> > >  >>>
> > >  >>>Matt
> > >  >>>
> > >  >>>On Sep 13, 2004, at 1:08 PM, Philip Chauvet wrote:
> > >  >>>
> > >  >>>>Hye Philip Chauvet again:
> > >  >>>>I assigned myself as a develper on SourceForge
> > > >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] .
> > >  >>>>
> > >  >>>>Where do I begin to incorporte this tag as an
> > extension to the
> > > >>>>existing  >>>> tag.
> > >  >>>>
> > >  >>>>Here is a live example: http://www.aikiinc.com/alphanavbar/
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