This discussion starts to go around in circles :/ On Wednesday 16 April 2008 21:15:00 Andy Green wrote: > WHY is what we are doing so DIFFERENT from what normal desktop distros > set out to provide that we need "a powerful build system
Try to run a stock distro on your Neo. Then come back and lets talk. > Why do we need that handicap of > a special "hard to learn" stumbling block for anyone that wants to > contribute? What is it doing for us that can't be done with a normal, > existing, well maintained normal distro with a lot of users who know how > to package and so on already? > > "Cross build" is the only answer I understood. Then please reread the other mails or start to learn a bit more about OE. Hints: Package granularity, embedded-specific patches, easy to build from source, automatic dependencies, source distribution, ... > | Otherwise the real question is: > | > | * How can we make OE easier to use? * > | > | Most of the doubts and questions here will just go away once you > | really understand it. That's the hardest part, definitely much harder > | then discussing on the mailing list. I think that's the real problem. > > Yeah. We have enough terrifying problems fighting against us already. > > Today there is a BIG barrier to entry to contribute. Huh? Writing applications is pretty easy. Download the SDK and woot - there you go. Customizing a distribution is hard, yes, but that's not what your casual user is going to do. > 4. We suddenly realize we're just making packages for a "PC", and we > should use a normal distro with some solution for cross, and not learn > and force everyone else to learn a big bunch of special case stuff. You can repeat this as much as you want, but it won't become the truth. A phone is NOT a PC. Yes it has similar power nowadays, but that's about it. If there's something we learned from Om 2007.1 and 2007.2, then that a phone is not a PC hence needs to have special things all over the place. If you want Openmoko to build MIDs, well, that could be a different story. :M:
