On Thursday 26 October 2006 9:21 am, Phillip J. Eby wrote: > At 12:53 AM 10/26/2006 -0600, Jeremy Kloth wrote: > >On Thursday 26 October 2006 12:21 am, Phillip J. Eby wrote: > > No agreement on semantics simply means that the odds are astronomically > against anyone putting in data that can actually be used by someone else.
As you like to point out so often, I do not actually recall anyone has ever brought up the semantics of the fields except yourself whom obviously is 110% against them to begin with. > You would *first* need to create a tool that could do something useful with > the information, Done. 4Suite's PackageManager. > and second, you'd need it to be something that actually *tested* the > usefulness -- meaning you'd need a distutils extension, Done. See above. > or else you'd have to wait until 2.6 to add new features to distutils > itself. Hmm, interesting idea. It so happens that I've been using/extending distutils since its introduction and am *very* comfortable with its code base. I believe that basically an offer to take maintenanceship of it was extended on python-dev, this may be something that I will look into. There wouldn't need to be wait if distutils itself starting making separate releases again. > install_requires is set by a script, so the script can set it based on the > Python version and platform the script is running on. Thus, eggs built for > different platforms or Python versions can have different requirements. And you're telling me that the `requires` argument isn't set by a script? A platform/version specific dependency issue can only come into play if a particular distribution is begin scanned for dependencies out-of-band, which is what the OP was talking about, but that is not what is at issue here. > Until somebody has some idea of 1) what the semantics are, and 2) what the > use cases for those semantics are, the fields aren't of any value > whatsoever. This isn't something that's going to be improved by fiddling > with their syntax, so long as the semantics remain undefined. Aparently you haven't used a recent Linux distribution? Both apt or rpm have the semantics clearly defined and that is the first thing that came to my mind when I came across those fields. Are you sure that you are not just against things that are not setuptools? -- Jeremy Kloth http://4suite.org/ _______________________________________________ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig
