On Jul 22, 2007, at 12:24 PM, Martin v. Löwis wrote: >>> If people do misspell a package name when invoking easy_install, >>> they get the feature that you consider of no value. >> >> That is not correct. Not all packages are in PyPI. Using a >> package that >> isn't in PyPI will trigger a fetch of that page. > > I don't understand. What page is fetched if the package is not in > PyPI?
We have lots of packages that aren't in PyPI. Some of them aren't ready for PyPI or are not of general interest. Some are proprietary. >> It isn't misspelled, >> it's just not there. People should *not* misspell pages when using >> setuptools. They should certainly not use misspelled package >> names in >> requirements. In my strongly help opinion, allowing imprecise >> names in >> requirements and setuptools command if of negative value. > > I cannot comment on. I don't use setuptools, and have no intuition > what > is good or bad when using it (for example, I consider .egg files and > the notion of eggs inherently bad). > > My main motivation to provide that page is that the setuptools > specification says it should be there. As this entire infrastructure > is for the sake of setuptools, I find it pointless to not support > setuptools fully. Fair enough. Theory beats practicality every time. ;) >> I'd be happy to contribute my polling version. That solves my >> problems >> and I can't justify the additional effort to figure out the >> cheeseshop >> softtware. > > I'd like to hear other opinions here. Yes. This has been a fairly limited discussion. Sigh. > Would people prefer if the index > was always correct (and perhaps somewhat slow), or would they prefer > instead that it is super-efficient (and somewhat out-of-date)? Where somewhat out of date could be a matter of seconds. IMO, a python.org index could poll every few seconds, given that local polling only takes a few milliseconds. I have a feeling that this discussion is going to annoy someone with PyPI software knowledge enough to add baking on write. :) For example, I had the impression that Rene' was planning to invoke scripts after updates. It would be easy to invoke my polling script or a script based on your work, BTW, I'm pretty sure that geographic mirrors are desirable, both for performance and redundancy reasons. I think that, for these, polling once a minute is plenty and puts negligible load on PyPI, assuming that there aren't hundreds of them. Jim -- Jim Fulton mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Python Powered! CTO (540) 361-1714 http://www.python.org Zope Corporation http://www.zope.com http://www.zope.org _______________________________________________ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig
