On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 2:24 AM, Jim Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sep 23, 2008, at 6:42 PM, Rick Warner wrote: > > Jim Fulton wrote: >> >>> >>> On Sep 23, 2008, at 5:44 PM, Rick Warner wrote: >>> >>> Jeff Younker wrote: >>>> >>>>> I have to say, as a developer, and a system administrator, I like >>>>> setuptools. It does >>>>> what I need. Could it be better? Sure. For what I use python for on >>>>> a day-to-day >>>>> basis it makes my life a thousand times better than it was before >>>>> setuptools. Nothing >>>>> ruins your day more than spending *hours* tracing down package >>>>> dependencies >>>>> just to get the *one* package you need to allow you to perform some >>>>> crucial task. >>>>> It's even worse when you have to do it on multiple architectures. >>>>> >>>>> Perl's package location and installation system (CPAN) is one of the >>>>> primary facts >>>>> contributing to its success. Perl is a pig. It's a charming pig that >>>>> can do lots of tricks, >>>>> but a pig none the less. What makes it shine is CPAN. And here's the >>>>> catch: CPAN >>>>> isn't really any better than setuptools. It's got warts and nuts all >>>>> over the place, but >>>>> it works. >>>>> >>>> >>>> And CPAN has some HUGE advantages over setuptools: it is designed as a >>>> repository, and it is replicated. Which means it is dependable. Anyone >>>> who suffered through the multiple outages of PyPI (which in not replicated) >>>> over the past year or so, or the ongoing outages of the many repositories >>>> across the web to which PyPI directs users/processes, can understand why >>>> this is important. >>>> >>> >>> >>> Actually, PyPI is replicated. See, for example, >>> http://download.zope.org/simple/. >>> >>> It may be that some of the mirrors should be better advertised. >>> >> >> A half-hearted effort. at best, >> > > Hardly, but there's always room for improvement. > > after the problems last year. When I configure a CPAN client (once per >> user) I create a list of replicas I want to search for any query from a list >> of hundreds of replicas distributed around the world. From then on the >> client automatically switches to one of my selected replicas when one does >> not respond in a timely manner. >> > > That's good. That would be nice to add to setuptools. Well that is the patch I have proposed right here : let setuptools deal with several indexes http://bugs.python.org/setuptools/issue32 Tarek
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