At 09:11 PM 4/20/2009 +0200, Lennart Regebro wrote:
"Isolated"? What do you mean?
Making a separate setup script for Python 3, at least for setuptools itself, if not having a general convention for that, since other packages may want to ship 2+3 stuff in the same package.
Or, in the alternative, using version testing in setup.py to run an alternate script for Python 3.
If you have suggestions on how to solve the problems I'm describing, can you please come forward with them, I've asked several times already. All you do is say "no, no, no, no, no", and "becasue". It isn't helpful.
I'm sorry you feel that way, as I've been *trying* to help. I just still don't get what the problem is. If I were porting setuptools to Python 3, I would *want* it to be circular, even if I had to hack on it a little at first. So I have a hard time understanding why you don't.
But I'm not you -- I understand the code base and I'm not trying to port it. Maybe if I were trying to port it, I would get what problem you're having, or maybe I would just keep right on going and not notice. I don't know. I've been trying to find out what exactly is stopping you and just can't seem to wrap my brain around it, any more than you've been able to about the reverse.
> For end-user convenience. A large number of people installing setuptools > are not installing it because they are personally interested in it, but > because something else they want uses it. Yes? And again you don't explain how this leads to you conclusion.
Mostly because your questions aren't pinpointing what you want to know. You ask general questions, so I give general answers. We seem to both be suffering from a surplus of assumptions of what should be "obvious" to the other person. For example, this:
Eggs are not easier to install, on the contrary, I have tried and failed a couple of times, and ended up using the source install instead.
...seems to indicate that your question was actually about eggs, not other-than-source distributions in general. I was mostly talking about the wininst installers and source RPM. The eggs are there, on the other hand, for ez_setup.py to download. (Not to mention buildout's bootstrap script, and other tools that depend on setuptools and want to have an automated overall install process.)
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