On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Michael Schurter <mich...@susens-schurter.com> wrote: > On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 1:12 PM, sstein...@gmail.com > <sstein...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Oct 15, 2009, at 3:55 PM, P.J. Eby wrote: >> >> [a whole bunch of stuff...] >> >> Understood and I've observed the public portions of all of this. Much of it >> has not been pretty. >> >> Personality conflicts aside, I wonder if it would be possible to move some >> portion of the base of both setuptools and Distribute to some sort of shared >> foundation. > > distutils in stdlib seems like this foundation. I'm not sure it would > be beneficial to inject another layer (and therefore dependency) > between distutils and setuptools/distribute, but will defer that > judgment to the maintainers involved in the 3 projects (distutils, > setuptools, and distribute).
I'll talk as the Distutils maintainer. I have been working for quite some in cleaning up Distutils code, and its test coverage to make it ready to evolve in 2.7/2.8, 3.2/3.3. This time is coming soon. The plan is to include bits by bits setuptools goodies into Distutils. But only through all the legit PEPs work we are doing (PEP 386/376/390) with Distribute *or* Setuptools being the incubator of those. But as ssteinerX said, this can ony happen if the incubator of Distutils is managed like an open-source community project, and that is currenly impossible in the way Setuptools is managed. Just because this kind of project needs more that one involved person. That's what we are trying to do in Distribute, where there are already quite a few python core commiters and buildout experts, and that's why I have proposed to join forces there. We worked lately on a daily basis and talk at #distutils on freenode about it. Sorry, no one is called "Ian" or "Jim" yet in there. Just 7 or so people that have been working for years with packaging and setuptools. That's pretty much the team which is required for such a project. Now, ssteinerX, what do you mean exactly by shared foundation ? Cheers Tarek _______________________________________________ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig
