On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 4:28 AM, Gary Poster <gary.pos...@canonical.com> wrote: > I have made a beta release of zc.buildout 1.5.0. > > Among other changes, this release includes the ability to use zc.buildout > with a system Python, if you use the new z3c.recipe.scripts instead of > zc.recipe.egg for generating scripts. > > Changelog: > > http://pypi.python.org/pypi/zc.buildout/1.5.0b1#b1-2010-04-29 > > In my experience, working with a system ("non-clean") Python can be fragile > in many ways. However, this release addresses the problems I have > encountered so far. > > Your feedback is welcome. I hope to make a final release sometime next week.
There's a big problem in our ecosystem: PyPI + our various installers don't have the concept of "beta" release. Any new release is considered to be the latest release. Until it's fixed, I think we should avoid pushing any betas to PyPI, especially zc.buildout, because many buildout instances out there are getting upgraded automatically. Leading to a wave of problems when there's an issue in the release. I propose that we "hide" the beta version on PyPI until all problems are cleared u, so people don't auto-upgrade their buildouts. Moreover, zc.buildout is very fragile to all the different setups out there. We have been doing manual tests in the past, but we should definitely set up some continuous integration tools. We should try, if anyone has some time, to implement a few functional tests where buildout would be used in various environments. - with/without virtualenv), - a typical plone setup - etc. Last but not least, I think this auto-upgrade feature zc.buildout should be removed. I'd be in favor of an explicit update of this software, rather than having zc.buildout auto-upgrading itself like this. Having a system broken because a new version was pushed at PyPI is not something we should end up with. The auto upgrade feature should be optional (and disabled by default IMHO, or at least asking the question at the prompt ?). Regards Tarek > Gary > _______________________________________________ > Distutils-SIG maillist - distutils-...@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig > -- Tarek Ziadé | http://ziade.org _______________________________________________ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig
