I'm not sure I understand this thread, mainly because I though distutils2 was to provide an installer. :) So with the risk of me not understanding it, here goes:
I think both proposals, both the older bootstrap script and the summit proposal, is to make it easy to install an installer, which in practice means easy_install or pip. This is only necessary if we don't have a full installer in stdlib. I can see a couple of options: 0. We have a pyinstall script that runs pip *or* easy_install, depending on which one you choose when you first run it. I believe this is a bad idea, and will just create great amounts of confusion. 1. We include easy_install or pip in stdlib. However, I think we shouldn't include any installer in stdlib, until it has evolved into a proper package handling utility which also can uninstall, etc. 2. We include a pyinstall script that downloads from PyPI and runs setup.py install. This will cover 90% of install needs, for more advanced installers, you need to pyinstall pip or similar. This means that we end up with one more way to install, which isn't a disaster, but isn't really helping the situation. Also, the objection to including installers but not uninstallers are still relevant even though this is a super simplistic script that could be argues isn't really an installer at all. 3. We include a pypiget script, that will download a file from PyPI but *not* install it. That wouldn't create a one step install process, but it would speed up and simplify the install process without sacrificing flexibility. It also isn't an installer, so nobody can expect of require an uninstaller. But on the other hand, it's not exactly a massive helper. :-) 4. Write a proper installer/uninstaller and include that in stdlib. I suggest that it's call "pypi" and have commands like download/install/uninstall/upgrade. I'm not sure how much it needs to be based on/integrated with distutils2, as I don't know what the plans are for uninstaller support. Other than that it would pretty much only need to know how to download and run setup.py on packages, so I'm not sure it needs to be powered by distutils2 in any deeper sense. :-) Sorry if I'm answering something that wasn't a question. :-) -- Lennart Regebro: Python, Zope, Plone, Grok http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 _______________________________________________ Distutils-SIG maillist - [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig
