2011/3/6 "Martin v. Löwis" <mar...@v.loewis.de> > What particular clause strikes you as particularly unfriendly? >>> Please understand that it may sound harsh, but is necessary - better >>> be safe than sorry. >>> >> >> Nothing wrong about the warning itself, but about landing on a plain >> condensed text page. >> I think we should make it a html page. And maybe display the last ten >> packages doc updates ? >> > > It actually *is* a html page (and always was). It just doesn't use > any styling. > > As for changing the style: please submit a html file to replace what is > there (I refuse to do any styling . As for displaying the last ten doc > updates: either submit a tracker request, or provide a patch. > > > Since "packages.python.org" allow us to have a directory with HTML >> files, those could be made accessible under: >> >> http://pypi.python.org/pypi/distribute/docs, with a big link on the >> top of http://pypi.python.org/pypi/distribute to go there. >> > > [I wonder why "links" and "buttons" always have to be "big", and often > "red" :-] > > See my response to Lennart for the former: distribute/docs would be > the "docs" release of "distribute". As for a big link: if you think > your page should have one, you are free to make it yourself already. > > > http://packages.python.org/PROJECT/ would become >> http://pypi.python.org/pypi/PROJECT/doc >> >> IOW, not changes but just avoiding two places -- without giving any >> hint on each place about the existence of the other place. >> >> Why Distribute would have two root pages ? >> > > See above: what you propose cannot work. Also, I don't think many > users care about the URLs of things. If your package home page > is pypi/distribute, that's perfectly fine. Put a documentation > link on that page, and be done.
> > Then, maybe http://pypi.python.org/pypi could simply become >> http://packages.python.org, with: >> >> >> - http://packages.python.org/PROJECT >> - http://packages.python.org/PROJECT/docs >> - http://packages.python.org/PROJECT/1.2 >> - etc.. >> > > That would break existing packages URLs, so -1. You cannot > lightly change URLs in the Web - replacing an existing URL > is a multi-year project. Sigh... Could everyone please be more careful before they create URLs that will have to be maintained for YEARS? This is so frustrating. As a practical solution now: Which links are being broken? If someone goes into http://packages.python.org/PROJECT expecting documentation, and then he gets a general page for the project which links to the documentation, then I think it's not that bad. If someone's following a deep link into the documentation, we can give a 404 page which suggests adding a `/docs`, so people will slowly learn to update their links. > Individual package maintainers may > do, but we still get lots of hits on cheeseshop.python.org, > so that needs to be supported many years in the future. I'm > not looking forward to having a *second* transitional URL. > > > Regards, > Martin > _______________________________________________ > Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig > -- Sincerely, Ram Rachum
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