Hi Florian, On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 10:36 +0200, Florian Friesdorf wrote: > Hi Holger, > > holger krekel <hol...@merlinux.eu> writes: > > On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 17:41 +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote: > >> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:27 PM, holger krekel <hol...@merlinux.eu> wrote: > >> > Not having download counts maybe lets us think harder about > >> > better metrics. The number of projects using a package as a dep > >> > might be one. > >> > >> With the current downside being that it's hard for PyPI to figure out > >> that number, too :) > > > > Yip. But something like Vinaj's red-dove approach or Marius' get_deps.py > > could provide a base. We might think about a docker instance which > > could allow to quickly spawn new light VMs so we can isolate setup.py runs. > > (Yes, it's only Linux but it'd be a start). > > nix and nixpkgs allow this isolation on-top off linux, freebsd, OS X and > theoretically also cygwin (not sure how good cygwin is supported at the > moment). > > http://nixos.org/nix/ > http://nixos.org/nixpkgs/ > > From nixos.org: > Nix is a purely functional package manager. This means that it can > ensure that an upgrade to one package cannot break others, that you can > always roll back to previous version, that multiple versions of a > package can coexist on the same system, and much more. > > Nixpkgs is a large collection of packages that can be installed with the > Nix package manager.
Interesting stuff, didn't know about it. Did you post this as a suggestion for provisioning an environment to run setup.py (on nix-supported platforms)? If so, i am not sure how it would help exactly. I guess myself i'd aim for a 80% solution for discovering dependencies first. Simplest/quickest wins there :) > >> Agreed it would be a good number to publish once it's more readily > >> available, too. > > > > I think "dep" numbers are mostly interesting for libraries, not so > > much for applications like django or pyramid or tools like nose/pytest. > > > > Another more practical data point would be "does this package even > > install on win32/linux/osx py26/py27/py33" and even better, do its automated > > tests pass? > > http://hydra.nixos.org/build/5062796 > > > If we could evolve to have this info published on pypi.python.org > > it would be quite useful i think. I am actually currently implementing > > a system which enables this (the "devpi" system) so i don't mean this all > > just > > as "nice to have" theory. I aim to present the status of this work > > at EuroPython. > > Nice! Looking forward to that. > > If you have any questions about nix/nixpkgs/nixos, especially about the > way python packages are packaged, please let me know. Also, it's not set > in stone. are you going to be at EP? It's a long conference and i am more than happy to sit together on this topic for a bit sometimes. best, holger > Personally, I'd love to see hydra.python.org providing builds of all > pypi packages and would be happy to help. Also including Domen and Rok > for whome I assume the same. > > You might have other tools that are better suited for you. > > regards > florian > -- > Florian Friesdorf <f...@chaoflow.net> > GPG FPR: 7A13 5EEE 1421 9FC2 108D BAAF 38F8 99A3 0C45 F083 > Jabber/XMPP: f...@chaoflow.net > IRC: chaoflow on freenode,ircnet,blafasel,OFTC _______________________________________________ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig
