On Jul 18, 2013, at 3:20 AM, Paul Moore <p.f.mo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 17 July 2013 23:18, Brett Cannon <br...@python.org> wrote:
> As of right now the User's Guide doesn't mention using setuptools for 
> building (beyond an empty header listing) and goes with the old distutils 
> setup.py approach. It also words things like you don't know how to really use 
> Python and are starting a project entirely from scratch.
> 
> Just picking up on this question:
> 1. As Brett says, is the recommendation that everyone should use setuptools?
> 2. If that's the case, why aren't we bundling setuptools in the same way that 
> we are bundling pip?
> 3. If we were bundling setuptools, pip wouldn't need to go through the 
> rigmarole of vendoring it.

Personally I think pip should be vendoring setuptools regardless. A package 
manager with dependencies is strange and there have been quite a few problems 
caused by setuptools getting in a bad state.

> 
> Paul.
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