On 19 July 2013 13:26, Donald Stufft <don...@stufft.io> wrote: > > On Jul 18, 2013, at 8:39 PM, Noah Kantrowitz <n...@coderanger.net> wrote: > >> So we've recently seen a big resurgence in activity on improving Python >> packaging. First off, thats good, hopefully thats why we are all here. That >> said, I'm becoming worried about a possible lack of focus, and I know I'm >> not the only one. There have been many ideas floated, and many PEPs either >> sketched out, reworked, or are stated to be in planning. I think perhaps we >> should work out some kind of shortlist of what we think can and should be >> accomplished in the short term and just keep a running list of topics that >> need energy but are lower priority. This would reduce the chances of hitting >> the "fix the whole world at once" situation that we have run in to before in >> this attempt, which often results in burnout and frustration all around. >> Just to kick things off here are the rough topics I can think of that I've >> seen discussed recently (ignoring that many of these are dependent on each >> other): >> >> * Including pip with Python 3.4 >> * Bundling setuptools with pip >> * Splitting setuptools and pkg_resources >> * Replacing the executable generation in pip with something new >> * Working out how to let pip upgrade itself on Windows >> * Entrypoints in distutils/the stdlib >> * Executable generation in distlib >> * Signing/vetting of releases >> * General improvements to the wheel format >> * General improvements to package metadata >> >> Apologies for anything I have mis-paraphrased or missed, but that is >> definitely a lot of things to have up in the air. Just want to make sure we >> can get everything done without anyone going crazy(er) and that we keep >> sight of whats going on.
I'm not too worried about whats in progress... I am worried about disruption when we rush things - e.g. the current broken state of setuptools+pip. -Rob -- Robert Collins <rbtcoll...@hp.com> Distinguished Technologist HP Cloud Services _______________________________________________ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig
