On Sep 4, 2013, at 9:27 AM, Nick Coghlan <ncogh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 4 September 2013 23:25, Paul Moore <p.f.mo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 4 September 2013 14:18, Nick Coghlan <ncogh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> If such projects publish wheel files (modulo us getting the Linux file
>>> naming problem sorted), then the only people the build issues are
>>> likely to hit are those that force builds from source (like
>>> zc.buildout and Linux distributions).
>> 
>> Personally, I don't expect to see published wheels for some time yet.
>> So building from source (even if only once to make a locally published
>> wheel) will remain an important issue, and if we need
>> setuptools-compatibility to build wheels, that will mean projects
>> getting told "your project's setup.py fails when I try to do pip
>> wheel".
>> 
>> But as I say, this is all based on "if such projects exist"...
> 
> I was under the impression pip *already* forced the use of setuptools
> (to ensure "--record" is available), so why would "pip wheel" provoke
> any more bug reports than "pip install"?

Because people do weird things in their setup.py that isn't compatible
with Wheel. Often times minor tweaks makes it work though.

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