On Oct 17, 2013, at 11:20 AM, Michael Foord <fuzzy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On 17 October 2013 11:56, Donald Stufft <don...@stufft.io> wrote: > Arguably it's already broken. I've had to explain to a number of people that > it won't cause their dependencies to install. I think its way more user > friendly to tell them up front then to confuse them when it doesn't work or > when it appears to work but they get an error from a - > > > You're proposing replacing "arguably broken" (by some definition) with > "actually broken" (no longer works). That's not an acceptable trade-off. I'm replacing Arguably broken for a small percentage of people with actually broken and easily fixed for a small percentage of people with no longer confusing for a large number of people. Of those people it would turn into "actually broken" a number of them are using it in a broken fashion and it's simply waiting for them to try and use it with a name that doesn't match an importable module for them to have it actually break for them regardless. > > > > Packaging is confusing enough without leaving foot guns littered through it. > > > Packaging is confusing enough without breaking people's stuff! (Replacing a > foot gun with actually shooting people's feet off if we're going to stick > with the metaphor…) As I said above, breaking it for a small number of people to simplify it for the larger group. By this rationale Python 3 should never have happened. Replacing Packaging with "Unicode". > > Michael > > > > On Oct 17, 2013, at 6:04 AM, Nick Coghlan <ncogh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Don't break things when they don't pose an immediate security threat (and > > sometimes not even then) :) > _______________________________________________ > Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig > > > > -- > http://www.voidspace.org.uk/ > > May you do good and not evil > May you find forgiveness for yourself and forgive others > > May you share freely, never taking more than you give. > -- the sqlite blessing http://www.sqlite.org/different.html ----------------- Donald Stufft PGP: 0x6E3CBCE93372DCFA // 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA
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