On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Steve Spicklemire <st...@spvi.com> wrote:
> Thanks Chris for the detailed reply. Well, I'm trying to sort out similar issues myself.... Right. My impression is/was that python.org/CA/Canopy were all different > builds of python that were *not* interoperable. well, in the case of Anaconda, Travis told me the intent was that it would be -- the reality, I'm not sure about. > So that a binary built with one could not generally be expected to work > with another. If that's not true, then maybe this is a non-problem. I guess > I should just "try it" and see what happens. it's still tricky to get things to install correctly -- the Windows (and Mac) installers expect python to be in a particular location -- Anaconda is not there. > Why not distutils for building Windows? I find it really helpful. > > I don't even have a 'real' windows system (only VirtualBox) and I don't > have VC Studio, you should be able to do it with the free visual studio express 2008. A bit hard to find an installer these days, but I think it's still there. I've had much better luck with that than MinGW. Do you think the build-wxpython.py script would work under windows with > MinGW? I guess that's probably kind of a naive hope. ;-) I doubt it --- but again VS2008 Express might build it OK -- but then Robin provides installers for wx anyway. > Well I guess I am too. I was impressed with CAs ability to use 'pip' on > windows to install plotly right away. It's almost like working in unix. I > liked that! > is plotly pure python? in that case, then it's pretty easy, really. /anaconda/bin/pip install vpython > pip install with compiled binaries is a different beast -- I _think_ pypi is now set up to find binary wheels that match the python.org python. I have no idea if those will install under Anaconda. But you probably want "conda install vpython" if you want Anaconda anyway. > and it would "just work". > > I understand that's impossible at the moment. But if I could create > instructions and/or build a set of binary files a student could easily > install that would give them: > > 1) vpython > 2) matplotlib > 3) ipython > 4) scipy > we're pretty close to having all these as binary wheels now. There isn't much stopping it. vpyton is up to you. But wx is not there -- though if you can get it to build on Windows, making a wheel of it should be easy. I imagine Robin would be happy to put them up in PyPi. I'd be ecstatic. I'll also check Chris Gohlke's site. Maybe I don't need > all the bells and whistles of Canopy/CA etc. > > That is a GREAT resource! Ultimately I'd like to help Bruce package vpython in such a way that folks > can use 'pip' to include wx and vpython in whichever python distribution > they happen to choose without a lot of fuss. > It's not really a full-on goal for Anaconda or Canopy to be fully pip compatible -- so that may be a bit of a fantasy... Also: you can point pip at a custom "wheelhouse" -- i.e. a collection of wheels that you put together. In your position, I"d be tempted to provide a full set of wheels for the python.org build for everything that you need that isn't already pip-installable. Then point your students to that. If you're lucky, those some wheels may work with Anaconda, or even Canopy. -Chris -- Christopher Barker, Ph.D. Oceanographer Emergency Response Division NOAA/NOS/OR&R (206) 526-6959 voice 7600 Sand Point Way NE (206) 526-6329 fax Seattle, WA 98115 (206) 526-6317 main reception chris.bar...@noaa.gov
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