On 10 Jun 2014, at 15:47, Nick Coghlan <ncogh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 10 June 2014 23:22, Wichert Akkerman <wich...@wiggy.net> wrote:
>> 
>> If I remember correctly there are some mobile networks in Asia who only do 
>> IPv6 internally. Gandi offers IPv6-only servers that are cheaper than 
>> servers with ipv4 connectivity. So while right now not having IPv4 
>> connectivity is unlikely, it does happen and will only become more common. 
>> People are also introducing monstrosities like carrier-grade NAT to delay 
>> the inevitable, but we really should not encourage that madness and just add 
>> IPv6. It generally is very easy to do.
> 
> The challenge is that PyPI now runs behind a donated CDN service, and
> our vendor doesn't offer IPv6 yet:
> https://fastly.zendesk.com/entries/30549708-Do-you-support-IPv6-

I saw that and was very disappointed by Fastly. It means I won't consider using 
them for anything I do at this point in time.
 
> That means that, for the time being "the PyPI CDN is generously
> donated by Fastly" trumps "the PyPI CDN supports IPv6" - IPv6 support
> isn't currently high enough on the priority list for us to be willing
> to turn down Fastly's offer. That trade-off may change some day, but I
> expect Fastly will have already added IPv6 support before we reach
> that point.

Is the PSF willing to ask push Fastly a little bit on this, so we at least have 
timeframe?

>>> It's something we'll want to keep an eye on, but yeah, at this point
>>> in time, when connecting an IPv6-only system to the internet, PyPI is
>>> likely to be long way down the "it isn't working" priority list.
>> 
>> I have an ipv6-only VM, and it works wonderfully: it can send email, pull 
>> Debian updates, serve IPv6 websites and it has my remote backups and 
>> git-annex repositories.
> 
> I was thinking of the client case, but you're right, in a server
> context, IPv6 only is far more likely to be viable already.

It’s very viable right now I’ld say. If I remember correctly Cloudflare has a 
free service where they add an IPv4 frontend for IPv6-only servers so you can 
still provide service to IPv4-only users.

Wichert.
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