> On Dec 18, 2014, at 7:03 PM, Nick Coghlan <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> On 19 Dec 2014 03:50, "Marcos Klein" <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >
> > I have two update requests for PEP 440.
> >
> > Could PEP 440 date-based version identifier examples be extend to include 
> > full timestamp version identifiers?
> 
> Sure, that's not a change to the semantics, just some additional examples.
> 
> > This leads me to my second request.
> >
> > Could the effects of normalized version identifiers be clarified when it 
> > comes to package builds? 
> >
> > The normalization section in PEP 440 only seems to discuss the use of 
> > normalization in parsing and processing of the version identifier.  I was 
> > quite surprised when my package build for the above version identifier 
> > became the following under setuptools 8:
> >
> > dated_release-20141218.18-p27-none-any.whl
> >
> > Previous releases of setuptools would build:
> >
> > dated_release-20141218.000018-p27-any.whl
> >
> > This is jarring as it is an unexpected interpretation of PEP 440. It is the 
> > classic pointer argument.  I want to call it THIS, but it really is THAT.
> 
> This is primarily an RFE for setuptools 8+ requesting the ability to skip the 
> normalisation step. At the PEP level, it's already covered by the fact that 
> installers are required to be able to do dynamic normalisation.
> 
> That said, it's likely worth adding a clarifying paragraph that our 
> perspective is that while installation tools MUST normalise versions, build 
> tools SHOULD normalise versions.
> 
> Cheers,
> Nick.
> 

Originally I directed this here, though I think now it’s because I forgot how 
numbers work. I was thinking that currently the normalization would result in 
_wrong_ versions not just ugly versions. I forgot that 0018000 won’t normalize 
to the same thing as 0000000 so it’s likely safe to do that I think. Originally 
I was thinking that without doing the int() you’d get different results, 
something which in hindsight is obviously wrong.

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