> On Dec 30, 2014, at 8:24 PM, Nick Coghlan <ncogh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On 23 December 2014 at 04:15, Vladimir Diaz <vladimir.v.d...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:vladimir.v.d...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Nick Coghlan <ncogh...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:ncogh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> From my perspective, the split into two PEPs meant most of the areas I have 
> doubts about have been moved to the end-to-end security model in PEP 480, 
> leaving PEP 458 to cover the simpler task of securing the link from PyPI to 
> the end user in such a way that public mirrors of packages can be trusted to 
> accurately reflect the content published by PyPI.
> 
> I think splitting the proposal into two PEPs was the right decision.  We hope 
> working with Donald on the end-to-end security model (PEP 480), and feedback 
> from the community will help to address any remaining questions.  Excluding 
> the end-to-end option from the revised version of PEP 458 also made room for 
> an overview of the metadata and framework, which was requested by multiple 
> members of the community.
> 
> An off-list question from Richard made me realise we should likely retitle 
> the two PEPs slightly. I'd suggest the following names:
> 
> PEP 458: Surviving a compromise of the PyPI CDN

This isn’t exactly right either, because it won’t survive a compromise of the 
CDN for *uploading*, but it might be close enough not to matter. Perhaps better 
would be something about not relying on TLS or something.

> PEP 480: Surviving a compromise of PyPI
> 
> That encapsulates the difference between the threat model of the two PEPs in 
> a way that the current titles don't quite convey (the reduced scope of PEP 
> 458 in particular means that the current title is actually outright wrong - 
> protecting against a compromise of PyPI itself is the scope that was moved to 
> PEP 480).
> 
> The reduced scope of PEP 458 also still protects against the compromise of 
> read-only mirrors, but I don't think we need to try to capture that directly 
> in the title.
> 
> Cheers,
> Nick.
> 
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