On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 11:12 PM, Donald Stufft <don...@stufft.io> wrote:
> On September 1, 2015 at 12:15:56 AM, Nick Coghlan (ncogh...@gmail.com) wrote:
>> On 1 September 2015 at 05:53, Donald Stufft wrote:
>> > The top packages look a bit different than it did 10 months ago, 
>> > surprisingly
>> > to me PIL has severely dropped off from where it had ~63k 10 months ago 
>> > and it
>> > now has 5.5k, however pygame has risen from 2.6k 10 months ago to ~32k.
>>
>> I can provide plausible explanations for both of those:
>>
>> * Pillow adoption progressively displacing PIL usage
>> * Pygame Zero lowering barriers to entry for PyGame usage in education
>>
>>
>
> Seems reasonable, Pygame doesn’t seem to have had a release since 2009. This 
> is a common theme amongst most of the projects still using external hosting, 
> they were added at a time that PyPI either didn’t have file uploading or it’s 
> file uploading was unreliable and it made more sense to host externally. I 
> think that also explains why almost none of them switched away from the 
> unverifiable method to the verifiable method and why the amount of traffic 
> per project drops sharply after the first handful, because it’s largely older 
> projects that may or may not even actually work anymore.
>
> In the case of Pygame, I see that the pygame zero instructions say to install 
> from https://bitbucket.org/pygame/pygame. I don’t know of that’s an official 
> pygame repository or if someone forked it or what, but if that’s owned by the 
> same people, maybe we can get them to make a release to PyPI.

Looking at the download url that PyPI points to:

   http://www.pygame.org/download.shtml

then I get the impression that this page was designed to be read by
humans only, and if pip/easy_install ever do anything useful with it
then it's by pure luck only. The whole page is about how you should go
about choosing and obtaining the correct platform-specific binary
package.

(Also, what does it meant that https://pypi.python.org/pypi/Pygame is 404?)

-n

-- 
Nathaniel J. Smith -- http://vorpus.org
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