i would very strongly suggest to completely avoid distutils as base for a new tool being based on distutils is one of the main reasons why setuptools is so painful to develop/maintain, its always a huge mental cost and pain to work into that huge pile of historic spaghetti
and its even more pain to come up with useful tests -- Ronny On 10/21/2015 09:05 PM, Chris Barker wrote: > On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 10:03 AM, Ronny Pfannschmidt > <opensou...@ronnypfannschmidt.de > <mailto:opensou...@ronnypfannschmidt.de>> wrote: > > why does that have to be in setuptools ?! > > > it doesn't have to be in setuptools at all -- I suppose I should have > defined more clearly what I meant: > > setuptools_lite would be a package that does all things that > setuptools does that we currently think it *should* do -- and nothing > else. > > whether it's in setuptools as a special mode, forked from setuptools, > or written from scratch is all implementation detail. > > perhaps it would be better with a different name -- maybe "buildtools"? > > But I thought for acceptance by the community, maybe saying: > > replace all your "import setuptools" with "import setuptool_lite" > would be clear what the intent was -- i.e. not YET ANOTHER brand new > build system... > > Oh and it would use the same API for the parts that it still > supported. Given all that, if I were to do it, and I'm not sure I > can... I would probably start with setuptools and rip stuff out rather > than start from scratch. > > and both distutils and setuptools are very very sub-par > > > well, see the other discussion about the role / necessity of > distutils... but yes, it's certainly possible to make a new build > system completely independent of distutils. > > -CHB > > > -- > > Christopher Barker, Ph.D. > Oceanographer > > Emergency Response Division > NOAA/NOS/OR&R (206) 526-6959 voice > 7600 Sand Point Way NE (206) 526-6329 fax > Seattle, WA 98115 (206) 526-6317 main reception > > chris.bar...@noaa.gov <mailto:chris.bar...@noaa.gov>
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