On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 at 12:03 Donald Stufft <don...@stufft.io> wrote: > On October 29, 2015 at 2:54:19 PM, Daniel Holth (dho...@gmail.com) wrote: > > I think that would be very handy, especially making setuptools not a > > special case. You could get it down to 3 lines in setup.cfg, a file that > > already exists and already gathers random settings. > > > > <snip> > > I don’t think we should try to use an entry point (at least not yet). One > of the key points is to minimize the conceptual churn and to move forward > slowly while still progressing. I don’t think that using a class really > buys us much because anyone who is capable of writing that class is also > capable of writing a small CLI interface to be used within a setup.py. It > feels more like churn for churn’s sake than anything else and some sort of > idealogical purity over pragmatism. >
There is also the familiarity of standardizing the CLI that pip will use when calling setup.py. The one thing that Daniel's case 3 proposal has over Donald's, though, is that all data can be self-contained in setup.cfg. If a build tool chooses to have the user specify all data in setup.cfg then you just copy-and-paste the `[bootstrap]` part and then in some other section they specify the info the build tool wants. Donald's approach could do something similar but it also requires copying around a boilerplate setup.py that is never modified. It's a familiarity vs. simplicity issue. Personally I still like the simple setup.py approach for the familiarity of it as well as the backwards-compatibility/transition bit being so simple with older versions of setuptools. > > I also don’t want to base any standard on setuptools entry points because > they are not a standard (and if we did, the key should not mention pip at > all, pip shouldn’t be special cased any more than setuptools should). > Well, it kind of is a standard thanks to Paul and zipapp: https://docs.python.org/3/library/zipapp.html#module-zipapp > > ----------------- > Donald Stufft > PGP: 0x6E3CBCE93372DCFA // 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 > DCFA > > > _______________________________________________ > Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig >
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