> On Dec 9, 2015, at 3:56 PM, Robert Collins <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On 10 December 2015 at 08:59, Ralf Gommers <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> And even modern pips
>>> can be told *not to call wheel*.
>> 
>> 
>> Isn't that something you can ignore? If the plan for pip anyway is to always
>> go sdist-wheel-install, why support this flag for a new build interface?
> 
> Well, there's still debate about that. I think its waste and will piss
> developers off (heck, even in tox OpenStack folk find sdist too long
> and disable it routinely - we've added CI checks that sdist doesn't
> error to allow keeping the local developer workflow smooth).
> 

I’m in process of moving so I’m a bit scattered brained at the moment and I 
don’t have the time to look into the specifics but if this is for the build 
interface (vs the shim) then I don’t think we should support plain ``install``. 
Opting into the new format should mandate the capability of producing a wheel 
and then installing from that instead of being able to directly install.

If we consider the setuptools/distutils era to be “Make it Work”, then we’re 
now at “Make it Right”, making it fast can come later but sacrificing 
correctness for speed isn’t something I think we should be doing and so speed 
arguments (vs why it’s more correct to do X instead of Y) don’t matter much to 
me.

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