On 10 February 2016 at 13:09, Paul Moore <p.f.mo...@gmail.com> wrote: > [I need to read and digest the rest of this, but it's late here, so > that will be tomorrow]
OK, cool. > On 9 February 2016 at 23:19, Robert Collins <robe...@robertcollins.net> wrote: >>>> Who / what tool do we expect to use the sdist command in the abstract >>>> interface? >>> I do not accept any proposal that removes "pip wheel <source>" without >>> providing *any* replacement. >> >> But the current proposal *DOES NOT REMOVE IT*. > > By <source> I had in mind "project name", implying "download from > PyPI". And by "remove" i meant "open up the possibility of people > using tools that don't support easy creation of source artifacts that > can be uploaded to PyPI, resulting in pip not being able to find > something to download". Sure - but Nathaniel and I both seem to think that the PEP doesn't make it any easier to do that - and in fact should allow flit to start uploading source artifacts (by allowing pip to consume it's sdists), optionally with a setuptools_shim style setup.py. >> We're clearly miscommunicating about something :). > > Yes, and that's probably my fault. I need to go back and reread the > PEP and the thread. > > But as I said in my response to Nathaniel, it may be that all that is > needed is some context in the PEP explaining how we require[1] people > to upload source to PyPI in the new world where we support build > systems which don't have a "sdist" command like setuptools does. > > Paul > > [1] I say "require" in the sense of "you have to follow these rules if > pip is to be able to use your source", not "you must upload source" - > although I hope that the number of people actually preferring to *not* > include source in their PyPI uploads is vanishingly small... So, I'm not against us making a statement like that, but I don't think it belongs in this PEP - it should be in the main PyPI docs/rules, surely? -Rob -- Robert Collins <rbtcoll...@hpe.com> Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud _______________________________________________ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig
