Hi, On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Donald Stufft <don...@stufft.io> wrote: [snip] > [1] There seems to be some animosity among pip supporters and conda > supports, or at least a perception that there is. I’d just like to say that > this isn’t really shared (to my knowledge) by the development teams of > either project. I think everyone involved thinks folks should use whatever > solution best allows them to solve whatever problem they are having.
I don't know whether there is animosity, but there is certainly tension. Speaking personally, I care a lot about having the option to prefer pip. There are others in the scientific community who feel we should standardize on conda. I think this is the cause of Chris' frustration. If we could all use conda instead of pip, then this would make it easier for him in terms of packaging, because he would not have to support pip (Chris please correct me if I'm wrong). Although there are clear differences in the audience for pip and conda, there is also a very large overlap. In practice the majority of users could reasonably choose one or the other as their starting point. Of course, one may come to dominate this choice over the other. At the point where enough users become frustrated with the lack of pip wheels, conda will become the default. If pip wheels are widely available, that makes the pressure to use conda less. If we reach this tipping point it will become wasteful of developer effort to make pip wheels / conda packages, the number and quality of binary packages will drop, and one of these package managers will go into decline. Cheers, Matthew _______________________________________________ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig