> I know Daniel has been involved in the discussion and I don't think he's raised any such objection about the PEP (and he developed enscons, so he has direct experience of writing backends).
Daniel raised that specific objection. 2017-08-24 10:21 GMT-05:00 Paul Moore <p.f.mo...@gmail.com>: > On 24 August 2017 at 16:15, xoviat <xov...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> 2. I'm not completely clear on how pip's implementation will work - I > > think the intention is to always build a sdist and build a wheel from > > that, unless the backend reports it can't build a sdist, in which case > > we ask it to build a wheel directly. > > > > This was the exact process that I proposed, but was told that: > > > > > >> I agree that the way you want to do packaging is fundamentally > >> incompatible > > with build systems that do not resemble distutils. Perhaps since this is > > distutils sig some here are too used to distutils as the only model of > how > > packaging might work. Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself > do > > not become a monster... for when you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss > > gazes also into you. > > That wasn't me that said that. > > > There seems to be some miscommunication about the actual process being > > proposed. > > Possibly - or there's some confusion about what you're proposing. I > certainly have found your suggestions difficult to follow, and I don't > recall you having said "we do sdist->wheel then fall back to > requesting wheels directly". I also don't see how that's incompatible > with systems that don't resemble distutils, so I suspect that whoever > you quoted (which I think might have been Daniel) understood whatever > you did say to mean something different. > > I know Daniel has been involved in the discussion and I don't think > he's raised any such objection about the PEP (and he developed > enscons, so he has direct experience of writing backends). > > Paul >
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