---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: xoviat <xov...@gmail.com> Date: 2017-08-24 14:26 GMT-05:00 Subject: Re: [Distutils] Fwd: Re: PEP 517 again To: Thomas Kluyver <tho...@kluyver.me.uk>
And also, are Nick and Paul okay with this? 2017-08-24 14:24 GMT-05:00 xoviat <xov...@gmail.com>: > So in summary: > - NotImplementedError > - Remove build_dir and specify that no modifications can be made to the > source directory > > On the third issue: > > I understand where Nathaniel is coming from in regards to sys.path. But > there should at least be an option for this because of for example, numpy: > numpy builds itself with it's own build system that is defined in the > source directory. If you remove '' from sys.path, then numpy cannot build > itself because there is no other numpy.distutils package. > > 2017-08-24 14:00 GMT-05:00 Thomas Kluyver <tho...@kluyver.me.uk>: > >> On Thu, Aug 24, 2017, at 07:30 PM, Leonardo Rochael Almeida wrote: >> >> It looks like a lot of trouble for a feature that is designed to solve a >> problem for a very thin intersection of the Venn diagram of people who: >> >> a. wants to quickly iterate while hacking a package >> >> b. doesn't want to bother learning how to trigger the incremental build >> system of that package or how to install it in editable mode. >> >> For better or worse, editable installs exist and don't need to be defined >> by PEP 517 just to handle this case. I'm not convinced it's worth the >> additional complexity of the spec just for that. >> >> >> This is a good point. Given that developers can use the build tool >> directly for development purposes, rather than going through the PEP 517 >> interface, we don't need to prioritise that use case for the spec. >> >> So for the time being, I'd prefer to say that the build_wheel() hook >> should not create or modify files in the source directory. Backends may >> keep their own caches elsewhere to speed up repeated builds, but any more >> provisions for developer use cases should be left for a future PEP. And >> developers can invoke enscons/flit/... directly in the meantime. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig >> >> >
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