No. Setuptools is what projects without a build_backend in pyproject.toml
get. Not distutils. We should make it clear now that the distutils
namespace belongs to setuptools except for when building cpython.

On Sep 27, 2017 2:33 PM, "Ned Deily" <n...@python.org> wrote:

> On Sep 27, 2017, at 13:31, Steve Dower <steve.do...@python.org> wrote:
> > setuptools is totally welcome in my book to simply copy the compiler
> infrastructure we already have from core and never look back. It really
> does need to be maintained separately from CPython, especially on Windows
> where we continue to get innovation in the targeted tools. I know it's a
> big ask, and it's one that I can't personally commit real time to (though I
> obviously will as much as possible), but I do think it is necessary for our
> ecosystem to not be tied to CPython release cycles.
>
> Whatever is done, keep in mind that currently distutils is required to
> build Python itself, e.g. the standard library.  And that at least one
> important project, numpy, already subclasses distutils.
>
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