On 11 April 2018 at 17:32, Pradyun Gedam <pradyu...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, 10 Apr 2018, 05:17 Chris Jerdonek, <chris.jerdo...@gmail.com> wrote: [...] >> A possible middle-ground could be to hard-code a message in pip. Pip >> could display the message in certain circumstances, e.g. in response >> to certain types of failures. For example, the message could tell >> users to check a certain URL maintained by PyPA for further >> information / possible announcements. >> >> What do people think? > > > I like the idea. > > I think linking to a location where we can make informative comments would > be a good idea — ideally where we can show announcements reverse > chronologically. > > I don’t know how relevant they are but scenarios where this would help, that > come to my mind are: > > - Status Page: "pypi.org is undergoing an incident and installations may > fail. You can find more information at status.python.org."
For HTTP type responses, which is what I understood Chris' question to be about, this seems like a good approach to me - the index can supply a response that triggers pip to report a message. "The index XXX reported an issue - for more information see XXX/status". That would need a PEP 503 change to say that an index can trigger this message by sending a certain response code, and that if an index does send that code, it must provide additional information at its /status page. > - Major Features: for things like PEP 517 when it's released. "There's news. > Have a look at pypi.org/news" or something like that. For these, I was thinking about this in the context of how we announce releases like pip 10. Maybe something like this would better fit as an addition to the pip selfcheck code - so that as well as checking for a newer version, pip would also check for a "Message of the day" at a known URL and display it if there is one. That gives us a way to announce releases or betas, or upcoming deprecations, in a way that reaches every pip user (at least every one who's connected to the internet!) It's a bit intrusive, so I think it's critical that we use it sparingly, but it would be good to have at least some channel that reaches everyone. I don't think it's something we'd want to use for transient issues like pypi outages, for instance. Paul _______________________________________________ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig
