Sure I can grab that— we patch pip because we use some internals to handle 
resolution and we have some bugs around that currently. They aren’t upstreamed 
because they aren’t actually present in pip, only in pipenv. Pipenv crosses 
back and forth across the virtualenv boundary during the process. Pipenv relies 
on piptools and vendors a patched version of pip to ensure consistency as well 
as to provide a few hacks around querying the index.  We do have a bit of 
reimplementation around some kinds of logic, with the largest overlap being in 
parsing of requirements.

As we handle some resolution, which isn’t really something pip does, there is 
no cli interface to achieve this. I maintain a library (as of last week) which 
provides compatibility shims between pip versions 8-current. It is a good idea 
to use the cli, but we already spend enough resources forking subprocesses into 
the background that it is a lot more efficient to use the internals, which I 
track quite closely. The preference toward cli interaction is largely to allow 
internal api breakage which we don’t mind. 

For the most part, we have open channels of communication as necessary. We rely 
as heavily as we can on pip, packaging, and setuptools to connect the dots, 
retrieve package info, etc. 

Dan Ryan // pipenv maintainer
gh: @techalchemy

> On Aug 20, 2018, at 2:41 AM, Chris Jerdonek <chris.jerdo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Can someone explain to me the relationship between pipenv and pip,
> from the perspective of pipenv's maintainers?
> 
> For example, does pipenv currently reimplement anything that pip tries
> to do, or does it simply call out to pip through the CLI or through
> its internal API's? Does it have any preferences or future plans in
> this regard? How about upstreaming to pip fixes or things that would
> help pipenv?
> 
> I've been contributing to pip more lately, and I had a look at
> pipenv's repository for the first time today.
> https://github.com/pypa/pipenv
> 
> Given that pip's code was recently made internal, I was a bit
> surprised to see that pipenv vendors and patches pip:
> https://github.com/pypa/pipenv/tree/master/pipenv/patched/notpip
> Before I had always assumed that pipenv used pip's CLI (because that's
> what pip says you should do).
> 
> I also noticed that some bugs in pipenv's tracker seem closely related
> to pip's behavior, but I don't recall seeing any bugs or PR's in pip's
> tracker reported from pipenv maintainers.
> 
> Without knowing a whole lot more than what I've stated, one concern I
> have is around fragmentation, duplication of work, and repeating
> mistakes (or introducing new ones) if a lot of work is going into
> pipenv without coordinating with pip. Is this in any way similar to
> the beginning of what happened with distutils, setuptools, and
> distribute that we are still recovering from?
> 
> --Chris
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