--> I now understand what you want to achieve and why you prefer to do
it this way.

There are probably more issues with ditac than you imagine. In order to
fix *all* the problems, we need an example (topics, map, *several*
ditavals), as simple as possible, showing *all* the features you need.

For example, you'll have to show us how you specify: include this
element but only when customer="X" and situation="Y".

Ditac currently has a low priority on our development schedule.
Therefore I'm sorry to say that it may take weeks, if not months, before
we release a new version of ditac.



--> The bug below is almost certainly unrelated to the above issues:
---
ditac: ERROR: fatal error reported by the XSLT engine: A sequence of
more than one item is not allow ed as the first operand of 'ge' (2, 6)
; SystemID: file:/C:/ditac-1_2_0/xsl/fo/pagination.xsl; Line#: 627;
Column#: -1
---
In order to fix it, we need to be able to reproduce it.



Thank you for your patience and thank you for helping us to improve
XMLmind DITA Converter (ditac).



Douglas W Philips wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Hussein Shafie <hussein at xmlmind.com> 
> wrote:
>> That's right. We don't understand the description of the "props" attribute:
>> ---
>> props = Root attribute from which new metadata attributes can be
>> specialized.
>> ---
>> Therefore this attribute is currently completely ignored by ditac.
>>
>> To be frank, we don't understand anything related to attribute
>> specialization (or is it generalization?). We only understand element
>> specialization.
> 
> We have several of our own conditionals to deal with both internal and
> external customers and variations of the documents we need to produce.
> Specializing conditionals means the markup is more readable. More
> importantly, if that is possible, it means that the tools we use can
> help us, so that the editor knows what values go with which
> attributes. This avoids typos in customer names. product variations,
> etc, etc, etc.
> 
> 
>> May be it's a bug but we currently do not understand how this is really
>> supposed to work. Therefore we are not going to fix it.
> 
> As you pointed out below, you must understand how it works because it
> works just fine when our conditionals are used inside of individual
> topic .xml files. I'm confused.
> 
> 
>> If you replace attribute "weebles" by attribute "otherprops" everywhere
>>
>> in your sample files, it will work exactly as expected. See attached files.
> 
> We are not going to do that:
> * For one, it breaks the help that XML/DITA editors can give us.
> * For anther we have several orthogonal new conditions. Weebles was
> just an example/simplification.
> 
> DITA is defined that if any of the contents of a conditional survive
> the filtering, the element will survive. That utterly breaks when you
> have to jam more than one kind of conditional into a single "other
> props" solution. For example, I might have a paragraph that applies
> only to customer X and only to situation Y. If I put both X and Y into
> otherprops, the meaning becomes: include this paragraph when -either-
> X -or- Y are 'included'.
> Having separate conditionals gets me the correct semantics of X -and-
> Y. HUGE difference. :)
> 
>> Now it's true that ditac allows to specify any attribute (including
>> "weebles") in the .ditaval file to perform conditional processing. This
>> explains why you have found it to partially work.
> 
> And explains why I would expect the exact same markup to have the
> exact same effect in the map file!  Attribute "foo" has the values to
> include/exclude in the ditaval, so it should be processed the same in
> the map as in the topic xml files. :) I understand from your
> explanation above (elided) that it will not.
> 
>> However ditac will not attempt to move attributes other the standard
>> conditional processing ones from the topicref to the corresponding
>> topic. This explains why it works fine with "otherprops" and not really
>> with "weebles".
> 
> Is that a crucial decision? Can it least throw an error when it finds
> a topicref with attributes which it isn't going to process properly?
> Last thing we want is an author to think they've properly
> conditionalized something as "secret" only to have it pop out in a
> document for a customer!
> 
> I hope I have explained above why jamming all of our conditionals into
> one otherprops is not correct and is not something we can do.
> 
> Based on your (elided) description, I attempted to put my conditionals
> on the top level element in my .XML (a <concept> in this case), but
> that generated an error:
> 
> ditac: ERROR: fatal error reported by the XSLT engine: A sequence of
> more than one item is not allow ed as the first operand of 'ge' (2, 6)
> ; SystemID: file:/C:/ditac-1_2_0/xsl/fo/pagination.xsl; Line#: 627;
> Column#: -1
> ditac: ERROR: cannot transform "<my-file-name-here>.ditac" to
> "<my-file-name-here>.fo" using file: /C:/ditac-1_2_0/xsl/fo/fo.xsl: A
> sequence of more than one item is not allowed as the first operand
> of 'ge' (2, 6)
> 
> So, how do I work around this to get X -and- Y processing for entire topics?
> 
> Thanks,
>          -Doug
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